In TMP her hair is largely the same color as in "Turnabout Intruder(TOS)," filmed ten years apart and separated by about four years in the timeline.
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All of those have figured in SNW episodes.
Star Trek's record on how it handles romance is pretty poor. Were talking a PT Star Wars Lucas level of poor
SNW is head and shoulders above that. That said,It shows a pretty superficial understanding of what Star Trek is. One of the most praised episodes of TOS is "City On The Edge of Forever" which at it's core is a romance. The SF elements are there to serve the romantic plot, not the other way around.
When I have a doctor's appointment, I spend far more time with the nurse than I do with the doctor.
Yup.
You are a) missing the joke and b) perhaps do not have any friends or family in medicine. A nurse doing more medicine than a doctor is not surprising.
You want to make a nurse laugh? Show him or her House where all the doctors run all of their own tests.
All of those have figured in SNW episodes.
Star Trek's record on how it handles romance is pretty poor. Were talking a PT Star Wars Lucas level of poor
It shows a pretty superficial understanding of what Star Trek is. One of the most praised episodes of TOS is "City On The Edge of Forever" which at it's core is a romance. The SF elements are there to serve the romantic plot, not the other way around.
List of mature, realistic romances in trek that was done quite well. far above the CW 90210 crap of SNW
Riker and Troi
Obrien and Keiko
Sisko and Kasidy
Uhura and Spock
Jadzax and Worf
Michael and Book
Spock and Zarabeth
Data and Jenna D'Sora
Even Troi and Worf that I hated in TNG season 7, was still done very tastefully when it was clear Trio belonged Riker.
Also I am giving Star Trek Discovery credit, for allowing Michael to breathe first and grow from Tyler her first love to Book. The funny thing is, Michael is the human who was raised Vulcan, yet she uses more logic than snw spock in romance who has what? shagged 3 girls asap after the next.
The writers clearly have not watched some of this series. Trek has never given huge attention to a romance that was filled with toxicity, zero maturity and little respect for eachother.
I was not thinking only of TOS of best episodes of all time
measure of a man
yesterday's enterprise
inner light
cause and effect.
city on the edge of forever is still balanced by science fiction first. you do not watch that episode and totally forget you are watching a sci-fi show.
No it should not be that way. Doctors are meant to do more medicine than a nurse. To be fair I think it is just a way the show ends up writing poor and bad female characters.
They think if they make a female character who knows better than everybody and can do jobs that is clearly beyond their job specification and description, that this is how you empower women. I think it is wrong. Also it is not realistic.
for a show that likes to rip off buffy the vampire slayer, could they not have used Buffy herself as an example. What Chapel is in SNW will be the equivalent of Buffy having more knowledge than Angel and Spike (vampires who have lived for centuries, while Buffy is only 17 years) and also knowing more than her watcher, who is meant to teach and guide her.
Streaming trek since discovery have had a history of overpowering their female characters in terms of abilities. I mean Batel is literally a god in the final season, Michael and her mum were the Red Angel in Discovery, even SNW Uhura in season 1 said she could speak some languages that in TOS showed not to be the case.
This is not how you write good female characters. I am sorry but it is not.
Two or three of those were handled well. The rest. Sophomoric at best.
One of the show runners was literally a writer producer on DISCO. Romance is a messy business.
What, pray tell, was the realistic part of this romance? Where they were trapped thousands of years in the past? When Zarabeth was manipulating Spock into staying by lying at first about the Atavachron?
I think that tells us about everything we need to know.
Also, nurses do WAY more medical work than physicians, in terms of volume.
I respectfully disagree.
As I recall, the Rey girl from Star Wars, a big criticism and rightfully so was that she was way too overpowered and that was true and by the way this was star wars that is high fantasy.
Star Trek we expect more realistic stuff, also as I said, it is a pattern in streaming star trek that their female characters get so many power skills set that makes little sense. I am reading some IMDB reviews and I have seen fans asking if chapel is the captain of the ship due to the work load she does on the show?
Lastly Nurses do not do medicine or know more medical concept than doctors. their job is to assist the doctors after the doctors do work like a surgery. In SNW Chapel can perform an operation better than the doctor. this is not meant to be the case. sorry it is just not.
Michael Burnham had the same issue in discovery for been over -powered, In discovery season 1, Michael a human, was shown to have a better mental resilience than Sarek, who was full vulcan.
So it just seems to be a pattern of how female characters are written , but it is frustrating.
Well, since I work in a large health care system, I’ll stick with my own knowledge and experience of how health care works.
As for the rest, we’ve heard all of this before, and know where it comes from.
Enjoy your time here.
Damn… pwn’d!
Loved that show. I miss it terribly…
1001001 works in medicine, He probably knows more about a nurse's role in health care than most of us.
What skills outside of medicine or her science specialties has Chapel demonstrated? I've asked this before, with no answer. Is she a hotshot pilot? An engineering whiz? A master of martial arts? A deadly shot? I've never seen her in the Captain's chair. So why do these fans think she's the Captain?
Should we be complaining when a male character become jacks of all trades as the plot requires? (Looking at you Spock, McCoy, Kirk and Scotty)
Welcome to Corporate America (where you are expected to do the work of the five highly qualified people the company has just laid off).
I was a line cook in a restaurant (I was expected to make 200 meals a night all by myself).
If you're watching Trek for gritty scientific realism then you've already failed.
Are we comparing that medince? My gosh
Lol I am going to have to say no. A nurse will never do the job of a doctor that is a breach of medical ethics and medical malpractices
Even the poorest countries in the world do not give unqualified people in the world of medince a job that have not earned
That's where ARNPs (Authorized Registered Nurse Practitioners) and PAs (Physician Assistants) come in.
ARNPs can write and renew prescriptions (I'm dealing with one right now). So can PAs (My Primary Care Physician is a Physician Assistant).
There are many areas where physicians are in short supply. ARNPs and PAs fill the gaps.
I dare you to tell an actual nurse that.
Nah you should sit this one out.
A nurse is never going to do the job of a doctor. Nurses hardly even go in operation rooms when a surgery is been performed
Somtimes Nurses are not even there when. Doctors deliver patient results and when they are there they keep quiet and let the doctor do all the talking
Trust me I know this as a cancer survivor who dealt with this stuff for about a year
The only reasons chapel is doing more than. Dr mengba is because that is how they think a strong female chatacter should be and I am saying this is wrong and a bad way to write characters
I will rather have another fan agree to this obvious truth than Try to bend reality to justify poor writing in a tv show.
Makes no sense and I find it quite bizzare
Next thing I may hear is number 1 can captain the ship better than the captain itself on a daily basis
TNG Riker will disagree to that.
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