Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[Shaw]

As a lifelong TOS fan I would like to offer some suggestions for the new series.

First (and maybe easiest), avoid fan service with regards to referencing TOS (or other Trek series). Let the show stand on its own.

Second, please drop the season long story arcs. I've always said that Trek was meant for television, and by that I meant stand alone episodes. Part of the reason I still watch TOS some 50 years later is that I can randomly watch any episode. More importantly, stand alone episodes offer us the opportunity for small stories to be made that might not have in either films or season long story arcs. For example, two of the greatest Treks ever are City on the Edge of Forever and Inner Light, neither of which could be made in a format like Discovery or the Kelvin movies.

I want high quality Trek, but not at the expense of the great smaller stories that are surely out there waiting to be told on these strange new worlds.

 

[Nyotarules]

Second, please drop the season long story arcs. I've always said that Trek was meant for television, and by that I meant stand alone episodes.

It would be difficult to do long story arcs if one is exploring Strange new worlds (plural) and not Strange new world (singular), so I suspect your wish will be granted.
I suppose they could have a minor background arcs:-
UFP politics, Starfleet politics going on in the background.
The Starfleet are explorers v the Starfleet are the military debate going on Earth or other parts of the UFP.
The threat of another Klingon war on the horizon (which did happen in TOS)
Why Starfleet is humancentric and male dominated.
These little arcs could be going on, as Pike and crew roam the galaxy

 

[Cake]

I hope they make Boyce an Andorian or Tellarite female, that will stir shit up! The senior officers are too human heavy. If they stick with human male Boyce, give him a male partner that he is looking forward to travel the galaxy when he retires. And add female, Thelin as Chief Engineer.

I agree. The CMO is often in Star Fleet series an important regular role. A doctor can just easily be included in so many storylines. It should be used add some diversity. A female alien doctor would be better than an old white human doctor. Anson Mount with his grey hair and his 47 years is by TV standards old enough to fulfill the role of old wise guy himself. Or if they want an even older character with more experience than him they could make the doctor older, too. Actually I would prefer that. I think the CMO shouldn't be super young like Jennifer Keller was on Stargate Atlantis. And thinking of her it would be also nice if they have age appropiate casting when it comes to romantic couples. Don't put people together whose actors have a big age gap between them. We had two of those relationships in PIC recently and both of them didn't work at all and their age didn't make it easier to see what the women saw both times in these older guys.

Why Starfleet is humancentric and male dominated.

I hope the show won't give of the impression that Starfleet is male dominated. Just put a lot of women on the Enterprise and on other Starfleet ships, starbases and in the admiralty.

I guess for real life reasons it is hard to avoid Starfleet giving of a humancentric impression. Humans just don't require any kind of special make up, CGI or other things so there tend to be a lot of them on screen. But they could explain this away without making Starfleet appear very humancentric. They could mention other Starfleet ships with a higher/lower gravity and/or higher/lower temperatures and different kind of air compositions than on Earth. It would make sense that some aliens rather serve on a ship whose conditions are better suited to their race and that on those ships humans are rare.

 

[DigificWriter]

Contrary to what some people want to believe, the people in charge of current Star Trek aren't going to just throw away established continuity, so it is likely that "Old (Hu)Man" Boyce will be present and that the rest of the principal character roster will be as I outlined earlier (even if the actors who played those characters already don't return).

Alien and sexuality diversity will most likely come through the supporting cast.

 

[BillJ]

Contrary to what some people want to believe, the people in charge of current Star Trek aren't going to just throw away established continuity, so it is likely that "Old (Hu)Man" Boyce will be present and that the rest of the principal character roster will be as I outlined earlier (even if the actors who played those characters already don't return).

Um... as far as Boyce and other secondary characters are concerned, there is no continuity to throw away as the show likely takes place after "The Cage" and "If Memory Serves...".

Boyce could have walked away after what he saw on Talos IV.

 

[DigificWriter]

^ My point was that if Boyce is present, the character will be an older human male.

I also think it likely that he will be present because of the respect that the people currently producing Star Trek have for the Star Trek literary universe, in which numerous novels have referenced Boyce's tenure with the Enterprise lasting until James Kirk took over command of the ship in 2264.

Having Boyce around also broadens the age diversity of the show.

 

[Mudd]

Boyce was old. He could have retired or bit the big one.

 

[BillJ]

I also think it likely that he will be present because of the respect that the people currently producing Star Trek have for the Star Trek literary universe, in which numerous novels have referenced Boyce's tenure with the Enterprise lasting until James Kirk took over command of the ship in 2264.

Not as much respect as you might think, considering they completely blew up the 24th century novel timeline which had been building since post-Nemesis, when they made Picard.

 

[BillJ]

At most, I think Boyce gets a mention as being retired when we're introduced to the new CMO.

 

[fireproof78]

At most, I think Boyce gets a mention as being retired when we're introduced to the new CMO.

That would be my preference for much of the crew. I would rather Pike have a newer crew.

 

[BillJ]

That would be my preference for much of the crew. I would rather Pike have a newer crew.

Boyce wasn't on the Enterprise in Star Trek (2009) either. Dr. Prairie was the CMO that McCoy replaced. Whether that was a creative decision or done to placate the Dr. Boyce fanclub is anyone's guess.

 

[fireproof78]

Boyce wasn't on the Enterprise in Star Trek (2009) either. Dr. Prairie was the CMO that McCoy replaced. Whether that was a creative decision or done to placate the Dr. Boyce fanclub is anyone's guess.

The Boyce fanclub is the hardest to please though.

 

[Alexander Corrino]

The Boyce fanclub is the hardest to please though.

Is this going to become another Brian Brophy thing?

 

[DigificWriter]

Not as much respect as you might think, considering they completely blew up the 24th century novel timeline which had been building since post-Nemesis, when they made Picard.

A Canon television series was always going to eventually override the post-Nemesis non-Canon novels, but again, you've missed my point, which was that the people currently producing Star Trek have shown a willingness to reference and respect minor details that were established in Trek Lit, the biggest example being the official Canonization of Una as Number One's given name.

 

[BillJ]

...you've missed my point...

I've been here twenty years, and I'm still waiting for you to make one.

 

[Amasov]

It's very refreshing to finally have a Star Trek series that isn't named after the setting in which the series takes place. Trek has never excelled at coming up with compelling titles, but, this is at least better than naming it AFTER something.

Of course, Star Trek: Enterprise was already taken.

 

[Amasov]

Is this going to become another Brian Brophy thing?

Well, of course. I'm fully expecting John Hoyt to be brought back from the dead. If he's recast, it just proves Kurtzman doesn't care about Star Trek!

 

[The Old Mixer]

It's very refreshing to finally have a Star Trek series that isn't named after the setting in which the series takes place.

It isn't...?

 

[Lord Garth]

Well, of course. I'm fully expecting John Hoyt to be brought back from the dead. If he's recast, it just proves Kurtzman doesn't care about Star Trek!

Boyce in the Hood

 

[lurok]

At this stage (given main cast locked in) - Combs, yes please. Pretty please intern monitoring fan reaction