They started out with 2 season from the get go, so it was not renewed.
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Renewed.
Quite right Elaise. Even though this show is tanking they have to release season 3 as its done. Too bad we got this show for the 60th. Also we get a puppet episode on SNW. Lol
Daniels looks around Kovich's office.
"You've redecorated. I don't like it."
According to Google AI:
Starfleet Academy US Streaming: collected 2.1M viewers for the first eight days. While small compared to Taylor Sheridan series, it is above the full season averages for the [SNW S2 & Pic S3 - $1.3M]. Academy is still well ahead [1.6M 2 episode number for SNW S3
A slighly odd statement because all shows lose viewers after the premiere, making that comparison a bit disingenuous. According to the website 'Redshirts never die', it debuted at number 3 on Paramount plus, behind Landman and South Park. I didn't even know that South Park was still a thing!
I guess time will tell if it finds an audience and we see a third season. But at the moment, I don't see how its a good investment.
Landman started at over 5 million views its first season and the end of the first at about 16 million. Academy is far behind even labdmans initial 5 million. Also its losing ground not gaining.
They hoped to hook people with explosions and battle but after that its been downhill. They spent a huge amount of the budget on the first episode. The battles and explosions hooked some but the poor quality and writing of the next two episodes is sinking the show.
I will always be astounded by the psychic abilities of some people to determine an episode they haven't seen has poor writing.
The question is probably whether it's pulling in more viewers to the platform than another season of Disco. The answer seems be very much yes.
Said it before but the show was doomed from the start due to a confluence of factors:
- Kurtzman-era Trek doesn't seem to have made much of a cultural impact; only Discovery appears to have performed impressively in viewership and yet it's left zero footprint. Therefore, there's not really a huge dedicated viewerbase who think "oh, shit, more Star Trek, gotta check it out!!" - a lot of TOS/Berman fans have been fully alienated by this point, and the new stuff doesn't appear to have garnered a sizeable fanbase of its own
- The marketing for this was abominable. The 90210 poster, the trailers making it look like an extension of Discovery. Why the fuck did none of the pre-release material show off the humour? Why was it all gloomy music and shots of people looking tense? WHY THE 90210 POSTER
- The decision to target it at Gen Z is bizarre, because there's no way they're gonna tune into this shit. I like the show but the "how do you do, fellow kids" aspect is oozing from every pore of it.
It's sad because this is, so far at least, the best thing since SNW's early first season. It still doesn't feel like a logical entry in the Star Trek franchise, but it is at least fun, which is more than I can say about DSC/PIC. The show deserves modest success but every single thing about the context in which it was released ensured that was never going to happen.
- Kurtzman-era Trek doesn't seem to have made much of a cultural impact; only Discovery appears to have performed impressively in viewership and yet it's left zero footprint. Therefore, there's not really a huge dedicated viewerbase who think "oh, shit, more Star Trek, gotta check it out!!" - a lot of TOS/Berman fans have been fully alienated by this point, and the new stuff doesn't appear to have garnered a sizeable fanbase of its own
- The marketing for this was abominable. The 90210 poster, the trailers making it look like an extension of Discovery. Why the fuck did none of the pre-release material show off the humour? Why was it all gloomy music and shots of people looking tense? WHY THE 90210 POSTER
- The decision to target it at Gen Z is bizarre, because there's no way they're gonna tune into this shit. I like the show but the "how do you do, fellow kids" aspect is oozing from every pore of it.
It's sad because this is, so far at least, the best thing since SNW's early first season. It still doesn't feel like a logical entry in the Star Trek franchise, but it is at least fun, which is more than I can say about DSC/PIC. The show deserves modest success but every single thing about the context in which it was released ensured that was never going to happen.
It's nice to read about fatalistic prognostication on Monday morning on Hollywood productions.
Not quite accurate as near the end of March 2023 Paramount+ announced that they had ordered the Starfleet Academy show and it began filming in late August 2024 with a 2nd season renewal in October 2024.
I got this info partly from Wikipedia and Trekmovie.
It reminds me of a study done years ago when an employer showed identical commercials to consumers, but some had black employees, some had white employees. Some white viewers ended up complaining about certain things completely unrelated to race - but only in the commercials with black employees. Like that the store looked "dirty" for example.
That's not to say that not liking something is akin to racism. Yet there's no such thing as neutral analysis. If you come into something biased against, all these little niggles will stand out to you and seem worse.
So of we dint like the show we can potentially be racist? Lol. Explain why so many of us loved DS9? Youre just bringing this is to sow uncertainty. That people that hate it could be racist. You need to deal with the fact thst some like me think this show stinks because of the writing and things that make absolutely no sense. This show is nowhere near the greatness of TOS or any of the later Roddenberry or Berman shows. Do you really think this show is in the same realm of quality writing and production as the classic era shows?
Calm down and re-read the post. @eschaton specifically says that not liking the show isn‘t akin to being racist. The post is about unconscious bias, i.e. not liking the show or aspects of it because you were prepared to not liking it. Happens to all of us from time to time. And I guess the opposite exists as well: Liking something because you conditioned yourself to liking it.
Episode 4.
I predict Tribbles - an anniversary tie-in but also 30 years since Trials and Tribblations.
Also a hook
I predict Tribbles - an anniversary tie-in but also 30 years since Trials and Tribblations.
Also a hook
I will admit to being predisposed to liking new Star Trek, but neither do I blind myself to its faults. Every show has had its absolute bangers and it's absolute trash. Some more than others. I defend Discovery, and I believe that there's a lot to like there and it gets overly bashed for disingenuous reasons, but it's far from my favorite. Conversely, it's far, far from my least favorite. That said, even parts of the franchise that I have between little and no intention of ever revisiting have things to offer and was probably better than most of the rest of the stuff that was airing on TV at that time.
I'm beginning to realize that one of the things I'm enjoying about Academy is that it isn't trying to reinvent the wheel. It isn't trying to be prestige TV like Discovery, it isn't overly reliant on backward-looking nostalgia and fan service like Picard, it isn't filled with forward-looking nostalgic gimmicks like Strange New Worlds. It's just trying to be Star Trek set at a school. And that's refreshing.
I'm beginning to realize that one of the things I'm enjoying about Academy is that it isn't trying to reinvent the wheel. It isn't trying to be prestige TV like Discovery, it isn't overly reliant on backward-looking nostalgia and fan service like Picard, it isn't filled with forward-looking nostalgic gimmicks like Strange New Worlds. It's just trying to be Star Trek set at a school. And that's refreshing.
That occurred to me as well, although I am presuming that she is half human as she has been described as half-Lathanite. Of course, in the books, there was M'kn'zy of Calhoun.
Semantics. He was asking if there was to be a season two, and he used the term renewed, so why should I bother in overcomplicating the answer?
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