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All of these things are positive points to me. Besides, anyone who complains about Star Trek being "woke" wouldn't know the first thing about "real Trek". All I have to say about that is welcome to September 8th, 1966.
Reminds me of an unfortunate review I saw on amazon for Freedom Fighters: The Ray entitled "crisis on earth-sjw" that bemoaned the film for being too woke not just because of its inclusion of non-white non-straight characters but also specifically because it involved beating up nazis.
 
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Yeah, I know it doesn't really fit. I couldn't think of anything else to thematically fit with the term "one week" though.

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Seven Days - 4K - Opening credits -1998-2001 - UPN

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And a Russian - and during both Vietnam and the Cold War.

Indeed. Thought about mentioning that, since now it doesn't seem worthy of "inclusivity," but it meant a lot within context of the time. It's probably also worth noting that after TNG, they went right to a black captain, then a female captain.

That's not to say that Trek didn't have foibles in the past, of course. TOS was (usually) pretty horribly sexist. Berman Trek was terrified of having gay characters even after they started appearing on other shows. But these were exceptions to a general rule.
 
Frankly, I think season 1 is better than 3. Season 3 was pure fan wank crap.
pic s3 is ok, but overrated af. The usual Youtube clickbait crowd who hate on everything Kurtzman era single out s3 for praise. They neglect to mention Matalas was in charge of season 2, which the grifters revile.

They use Pic s3 to bash other new Trek shows, particularly Discovery.

I though Pic season 3 was alright, but not the best thing since sliced bread. Bringing back the Borg was such lazy writing. At least season 1 of Pic tried to do something different.
 
Picard Season 1 was a bunch of interesting ideas executed pretty badly (similar to the beginning of Discovery, in fact). It was way too messy, juggling too many things (the synth 9/11 and resulting ban, Romulan refugee crisis, XBs, etc.) It might have worked better if they tried to work through all of these semi-episodically, rather than doing the big serialized plot thing, but the "we'll just throw everything against the wall" thing made it almost fall apart (only salvaged by the beautiful final scene with Data)

Picard Season 2 was awful. It had the opposite issue from Season 1 - there wasn't enough plot and/or ideas here to make a good two-parter, let alone an entire season, with the show pretty much losing any coherence as soon as they went back to the "present." SNW basically did the same plot in Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow (right down to having a car chase) and managed to fit it all comfortably into a single episode.

Season 3 was essentially uncreative ideas executed well. The pacing of the season was dramatically better than the first two, and while fanwanky, I think on a story level it works well enough. My main issue with the season is the scripting is pretty terrible. I also really dislike that although the first two seasons were underwhelming, basically everything from them was undermined by the end of the episode, from Data's death to Q's farewell to Picard's relationship with Laris. You just know that Matalas had this sitting on a shelf for a decade and just crammed it into the existing continuity. Oh well, at least Raffi got to meet her granddaughter. Only thing the series as a whole paid off.
 
Picard Season 2 was awful. It had the opposite issue from Season 1 - there wasn't enough plot and/or ideas here to make a good two-parter, let alone an entire season, with the show pretty much losing any coherence as soon as they went back to the "present." SNW basically did the same plot in Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow (right down to having a car chase) and managed to fit it all comfortably into a single episode.
Picard Season 2 really deserves a pass there as the "past" arc ended up being forced to extend a lot longer then they had originally planned due to Covid.
 
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