Spoilers Starfleet Academy General Discussion Thread

[TRON JA307020]

Starfleet's fears when not knowing the cause would inhibit innovation. They'll sideline any tech not safe enough.

It's not that big of a stretch to me if you realize it's a trauma response.

Centuries go by without any alternatives?Come on. Thats incompetent. Even roddenberry figured there would be a replacement tech for warp drive. He nearly did it for tng only 80 years after kirk. 800 years going by with nothing isnt realistic at all. We developed eniac in 1945. By the early 80s desktop computers. By the early 90s laptops. 2007 smartphone. By 2022 a.i. All in less than 80 years. A simple calculator has more computing power than eniac now. Its ridiculous that starfleet can't get out of dilithium and warp drive.

 

[Detached Nacelle]

They could have just pulled up the Quantum Drive designs Voyager brought back from the Delta Quadrant.

No one has any benemite. Season 3 episode 1 addressed this directly.

Or utilized the Coaxial warp drive technology Voyager brought back from the Delta Quadrant.

Or generated Subspace Corridors with Xindi technology.

Look at sb-19 that seemed to open up a wormhole or something for instant transportation so folds and vortices were attempted.

Or gotten Transwarp coil technology from the Borg.

Harvesting Borg technology has always gone so well...

The thing to consider given the massive amount of time that has passed is all these options were probably considered and trialed. The show doesn't need to list each and every alternative just to say that alternatives were researched.

 

[Nerys Myk]

If it isn't being used, then there was a problem with it. Simple as that. The need for a "very special episode" to explain how and why is unnecessary.

 

[fireproof78]

Centuries go by without any alternatives?Come on. Thats incompetent.

Yes.

It's also what I see in STARFLEET and Federation leadership so it doesn't surprise me at all. Groundbreaking technology either minimized or sidelined. It's not new.

800 years going by with nothing isnt realistic at all.

I have up on realism after looking at the TOS Enterprise and transporter, or Spock, or any number of things. I don't watch Star Trek as a documentary.

 

[Fateor]

If they don't trust it they won't use it

Starfleet's demonstrated that.

Except they did use all of that.

 

[fireproof78]

Except they did use all of that.

For how long? Hell, they stopped transwarp so I'm not sure they're using any of these tech sby longer. Voyager didn't bother with any of the tech again.

Hell, Voyager shouldn't even be lost between Kirk's Enterprise and Picard's Enterprise going over Warp 10! But, conveniently forgotten.

 

[I am not Spock]

I don't understand why the Burn is too much for some people. One Kelpian almost annihilating Starfleet. Trek has done similar storylines before. What about Kevin Uxbridge destroying the Husnock race eveywhere with a single thought, in TNG?

 

[Fateor]

No one has any benemite. Season 3 episode 1 addressed this directly.

You don't need Benemite for Slipstream travel!

They only needed to use that in the second drive Voyager put together because it's hull didn't have the right geometry to utilize the original method.

Look at sb-19 that seemed to open up a wormhole or something for instant transportation so folds and vortices were attempted.

I'm talking about successful technology.

Harvesting Borg technology has always gone so well...

The thing to consider given the massive amount of time that has passed is all these options were probably considered and trialed. The show doesn't need to list each and every alternative just to say that alternatives were researched.

Why would they have to harvest it when the Borg are part of the Federation?

 

[Firebird]

Except they did use all of that.

We used thalidomide for pregnant mothers, until we discovered the horrendous birth defects.

We used radium for glow-in-the-dark items, until we discovered the effects of radioactive decay.

Just because we use something once or for a time doesn't mean it's gonna always be used.

 

[Fateor]

We used thalidomide for pregnant mothers, until we discovered the horrendous birth defects.

We used radium for glow-in-the-dark items, until we discovered the effects of radioactive decay.

Just because we use something once or for a time doesn't mean it's gonna always be used.

Except we would absolutely go back to using radium for glow-in-the-dark items if all other methods of generating light stopped working.

 

[Firebird]

Except we would absolutely go back to using radium for glow-in-the-dark items if all other methods of generating light stopped working.

No we fucking wouldn't because we know the dangers of radiation.

 

[fireproof78]

Let's absolutely kill ourselves in the name of light!

 

[Fateor]

No we fucking wouldn't because we know the dangers of radiation.

Most smoke detectors contain Americium-241.

 

[fireproof78]

Most smoke detectors contain Americium-241.

I don't know about you, but I'm not using my smoke detector as a light source. Maybe I built my house wrong...

Should have used that paint in my grandmother's basement from the 70s, plus the old outlets she gave us for fixtures too.

 

[Farscape One]

I don't understand why the Burn is too much for some people. One Kelpian almost annihilating Starfleet. Trek has done similar storylines before. What about Kevin Uxbridge destroying the Husnock race eveywhere with a single thought, in TNG?

Because Kevin was a completely different race, the Douwd. And he was shown within that episode, "The Survuvors", to have extraordinary powers.

In all of DISCO, Kelpians were never shown to be that powerful.

 

[Firebird]

Most smoke detectors contain Americium-241.

Yeah, and we're not walking around with smoke detectors in our every day items or using them in large enough quantities for light sources. Plus, Americium decays as alpha particles, which can be blocked by a piece of paper. Radium emits gamma rays, which are far more dangerous and destructive.

 

[fireproof78]

Yeah, and we're not walking around with smoke detectors in our every day items or using them in large enough quantities for light sources. Plus, Americium decays as alpha particles, which can be blocked by a piece of paper. Radium emits gamma rays, which are far more dangerous and destructive.

Do you want a Hulk? Because that's how you get a Hulk!

 

[Nerys Myk]

Most smoke detectors contain Americium-241.

Americium-241 (Am-241) is dangerous primarily if inhaled or ingested as a fine powder, as its alpha particles can cause significant cellular damage and increase cancer risk, concentrating in bones and liver, but it's generally safe in intact smoke detectors because it's insoluble and emits minimal external gamma radiation. While small amounts in the environment pose little threat, internal exposure can be harmful, but standard smoke detector use is considered very low risk, with proper disposal recommended

 

[fireproof78]

Americium-241 (Am-241) is dangerous primarily if inhaled or ingested as a fine powder, as its alpha particles can cause significant cellular damage and increase cancer risk, concentrating in bones and liver, but it's generally safe in intact smoke detectors because it's insoluble and emits minimal external gamma radiation. While small amounts in the environment pose little threat, internal exposure can be harmful, but standard smoke detector use is considered very low risk, with proper disposal recommended

Great. Now I got to dispose of that detector properly! Thanks, Obama!

 

[Nerys Myk]

Because Kevin was a completely different race, the Douwd. And he was shown within that episode, "The Survuvors", to have extraordinary powers.

In all of DISCO, Kelpians were never shown to be that powerful.

Neither are humans but one step across the Galactic Barrier and you get a God Complex. (Yeah you need high ESPer rating)