And lest we forget the major season 2 plotline that said using the spore drive caused damage to the mycelial network.
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Actually, had they NOT been stuck on trying to make a 4-5 episode amount of material into a 13 episode season, there absolutely would have been room for a couple episodes about a couple worlds doing exactly that.
Hell, drop it to 11 episodes (which would still be far too many) instead of 13, this could have been done easily.
Transwarp was abandoned by Starfleet after 2285, much as spore drives were abandoned after 2258. Seems like even older Roddenberry and Bennett era ideas for starship propulsion were one-and-dones, at least within the Federation.
Actually, if I recall correctly, it was ultimately revealed that it was Culber's presence in the mycelium network that was damaging it, not the use of the spore drive.
One thing does top the list above them. "Subspace Rhapsody"... most ridiculous and laughable thing the franchise ever did.
(The Burn is actually a good concept. But the reason why it occured was so utterly stupid.)
Oh that's right!
Hahahahahaha, oh please, as if a space amoeba, Abraham Lincoln, space hippies, warp 10 lizards, and Dr. Crusher fucking a candle ghost weren't ridiculous enough.
Never said those weren't ridiculous (at least, most of that list). But that musical? Definitely tops the list.
Hardly, not in comparison to the others.
Not in my top 25 at least.
To some people, absolutely.
Well Ackchyually... at least behind the scenes the "transwarp experiment" fits nicely with TNGs revised warp speed scale, implying they got there eventually.
The Genesis device being given up on is the much bigger "shelved" technology.
But this is still so ridiculous upstaged by the ability to instantaneous travel to any point in the universe & multiverse. This is SUCH a ridiculous "endgame" stage of technological superiority - it just breaks any universe scaling completely.
So much so that as a viewer I simply have accepted that both the reason why it's possible, but also why only the Discovery can do it (despite Book's whole species being compatible) - is simply "magic".
Goes with the transporter well, then.
Thats probably one of the biggest things for me. I got over the burn, it could actually make sense if explained properly.
What got me was, Starfleet was well know for being able engineer out of anything. There were plenty of promising technologies to working and worked on outside warp. They also got a ton of information out of a cosmic super being that would take a few centuries to unravel.
Yet here we are many centuries later and nothing. Disco starfleet is essentially the polar opposite of what they used to be. It was so damn jarring and took me right out of it.
Did they actually have a timeline for that? Because from what I remember it was not explained well and it just did not seem to fit within the given time.
It's worse when you recall that the Federation had alternate faster methods of FTL travel in the 25th century.
They could have just pulled up the Quantum Drive designs Voyager brought back from the Delta Quadrant.
Or utilized the Coaxial warp drive technology Voyager brought back from the Delta Quadrant.
Or utilized "Protowarp".
Or generated Subspace Corridors with Xindi technology.
Or gotten Transwarp coil technology from the Borg.
Or used their improved shielding to travel through Geodesic folds.
Yea they did. Could have used any number of tech.
Same here Elaise. It took me out of the story. It was silly. Stsrfleet of earth let lack of dilithium stop them from coming up with a solution. 150 yesrs is a long time. Ridiculous that they couldn't figure a solution and left the federation for a century and a half. They only cane back when the dilithium cane back. Such bad writing. Sigh.
Starfleet's fears when not knowing the cause would inhibit innovation. They'll sideline any tech not safe enough.
It's not that big of a stretch to me if you realize it's a trauma response.
It's not that big of a stretch to me if you realize it's a trauma response.
Lower Decks, Genesis wasn't given up.
Oh it's worse, you don't even need Dilithium to travel at Warp, just energy.
They've had people with Warp Drives driven by fusion, technobabble minerals, ions, and a couple other things.
You don't need to innovate with technology that's been known about 700 years.
Discovery's science advisors wrote an article on it
The Science Behind Discovery's Burn
Star Trek: Discovery's science consultants take us behind the scenes to explain how The Burn was created.
www.startrek.com
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