Starfleet Academy General Discussion Thread

[Set Harth]

TOS
TNG
DS9
VOY
DISCO (Come at me bro!!!!)
PIC
SNW
LDS
PRO
SFA

 

[Firebird]

A Star Trek show doesn't get to pick their own acronym, it's whatever the majority of the fandom decides to use. Which often isn't what the people making the show would prefer.

That's not how any of this works, nor has it ever worked that way.

 

[Santa Kang]

JIMBO
JENLU
SISKO
JANBO
MIKCO
PICCO
PIKEO
CARRO

 

[SantaEddie74]

ARCHCO.

A modern company for modern people. In cooperation with East African Tours. See the gazelles. Never stop talking about them.

 

[Jason X-Mas]

Trek shows should now have their abbreviations spelled backwards.

1 SOT
2 SAT
3 GNT
4 9sd
5 Yov
6 Tne
7 Ocsid or Dts
8 Dracip
9 Wns
10 Ygidorp
11 Skced Rewol
12 Ats

 

[Christmas Canon Spock]

 

[TRON JA307020]

That's not how any of this works, nor has it ever worked that way.

Nope. Fateor is right .

 

[ToddCam]

STA as in Starfleet Academy? That's terrible. Sorry, why use the first three letters for a multi-word subtitle? For many people, it's even Star Fleet Academy. It's as bad as DEE or STR or LOW

 

[Tuskin38]

Nope. Fateor is right .

No, they are not.
You can choose whatever one you want, but that doesn't make it official.

A Star Trek show doesn't get to pick their own acronym,

The Fandom doesn't even have a consensus on what acronyms to use.

As seen in this very thread.

 

[ToddCam]

Did the tradition of the three letter abbreviation start with the Chronology and Encyclopedia? I guess it probably wasn't even a thing to make an abbreviation before TNG debuted.

 

[Christmas Canon Spock]

Nope. Fateor is right .

Not really.

Fandom just gets to buy products. They don't get to determine how things are presented by the copyright owners.

Did the tradition of the three letter abbreviation start with the Chronology and Encyclopedia? I guess it probably wasn't even a thing to make an abbreviation before TNG debuted.

No, it started with the STAR TREK CONCONRDANCE, with three letter abbreviations for episodes.

 

[Tuskin38]

Did the tradition of the three letter abbreviation start with the Chronology and Encyclopedia? I guess it probably wasn't even a thing to make an abbreviation before TNG debuted.

EAS says VGR originated, or at least used, in the Encyclopedias.

 

[ToddCam]

EAS says VGR originated, or at least used, in the Encyclopedias.

EAS?

 

[SantaEddie74]

Ex Astris Scientia, the Trek fansite.

 

[Campe]

LDS called Voyager VOY. It’s canon.

 

[StarTrek1701]

Not if they make sense.

And they did, just not to you.

So you judge the performance of a preview scene against a mass marketed major studio's new trailer? They are not the same, the push behind the trailer gets it out there more and people are more likely to watch aa trailer than a preview scene no matter what it's for.

They are both trailers pushed for the exact same reason.
One got enough views, one didn't.
Simple as that.

And a song again is completely different.

If you can provide equal comparisons that prove your point I will listen but so far you have plucked apples and oranges and are trying to tell me which of the two is the better banana.

I've done enough.

By your logic I could point to this very thread and direct you to the amount of likes receieved by certain viewpoints and call that representitive.

And you'd be correct, if majority likes something it's good even in small samples.

And if you'll recall I never said your point was explicitly wrong, I said it could never be proven not beyond polling every single person in the world who identifies as a fan of at least one Star Trek show. But you clearly have an agenda to push.

Agenda? The fuck you on about?
The only 'agenda' I have is the desire for every Trek show to succeed, but with what I am seeing it might not be the case for Academy.
Paramount has been absolutely horrible in marketing this show or try to make it appealing beyond us old school Trek fans.

 

[StarTrek1701]

The Fuglyprise?

Eh, it's a tie with the ENT-E and the Vengeance as my fav ships.

 

[Starflight]

What's funny is that I can provide other metrics too but you'll ignore them as well.

I'm interested in this; I've looked myself for indications of the success of the streaming shows but it all seems very cagey, even when it's ostensibly good news. At best there's just very vague stuff like "subscriber counts went up when new Discovery seasons came out", but I've not been able to find any concrete figures or metrics.

I did find out that SNW's third season had what looks like an unexpected drop-off, starting in the top ten charts and then vanishing by the finale, but that's such a weak indicator that I wouldn't necessarily read it as proof that the show was abandoned by the audience (nor would I exclude that possibility, especially given the critical response from the audience seemed to tailspin on many review aggregate sites). If you have any more detailed indicators I'd love to see them!

 

[Christmas Canon Spock]

The only 'agenda' I have is the desire for every Trek show to succeed, but with what I am seeing it might not be the case for Academy.
Paramount has been absolutely horrible in marketing this show or try to make it appealing beyond us old school Trek fans.

Why does it need to suceed?

And why should we care what Paramount's marketing is doing? Why?

It's ridiculous to sit there an analyze all of it and throw up our hands and go "Iz bad! Allways!"

Let the show speak for itself.

 

[StarTrek1701]

I'm interested in this; I've looked myself for indications of the success of the streaming shows but it all seems very cagey, even when it's ostensibly good news. At best there's just very vague stuff like "subscriber counts went up when new Discovery seasons came out", but I've not been able to find any concrete figures or metrics.

I did find out that SNW's third season had what looks like an unexpected drop-off, starting in the top ten charts and then vanishing by the finale, but that's such a weak indicator that I wouldn't necessarily read it as proof that the show was abandoned by the audience (nor would I exclude that possibility, especially given the critical response from the audience seemed to tailspin on many review aggregate sites). If you have any more detailed indicators I'd love to see them!

You're right about one thing that it's hard to get the correct viewership numbers nowadays, Netflix started this trend and every other streaming service followed suit.
I did find this though am not sure how valid or accurate they are: https://flixpatrol.com/top10/paramount-plus/