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Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 4x01 - "Valles Marineris"

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It was a okay episode, but felt like treading really worn ground at this point... even borrowing some elements from earlier SNW episodes.

I do wonder how there'd be no signs of these people on Mars, or why none of them would colonize Earth, but let's not thinking about it. lol
65 million years is a long time. Our own fossil records are vastly incomplete and many species are just lost to time.

Impending extinctions could have caused all sorts of societal issues, much of their technology could have been destroyed in wars. Maybe they didn't want to colonise the neighbour of their dead world and be forever reminded of it?
 
It was a okay episode, but felt like treading really worn ground at this point... even borrowing some elements from earlier SNW episodes.

I do wonder how there'd be no signs of these people on Mars, or why none of them would colonize Earth, but let's not thinking about it. lol

Earth is populated by giant, hostile, creatures and is about to become environmentally inhospitable.
 
Exactly. Its become very generic. They even reinvented the Gorn to resemble the aliens from Alien. The episode that followed many beats from the movie Aliens was when I knew the showrumners were not interested in Trek. They even had their own version of "Newt" in that episode. Lol
Star Trek has been paying homage to (copying) other properties since it started. Similarities to Forbidden Planet aside, Balance of Terror is basically The Enemy Below in space. TNG had its Die Hard episode with Starship Mine. Voyager had Janeway basically playing Ripley from Aliens in Macrocosm. TNG's The Enemy and Enterprise's Dawn are both essentially Enemy Mine.

This isn't some new thing Strange New Worlds invented. Star Trek has been borrowing familiar stories and putting its own spin on them for over 60 years.
 
Star Trek has been paying homage to (copying) other properties since it started. Similarities to Forbidden Planet aside, Balance of Terror is basically The Enemy Below in space. TNG had its Die Hard episode with Starship Mine. Voyager had Janeway basically playing Ripley from Aliens in Macrocosm. TNG's The Enemy and Enterprise's Dawn are both essentially Enemy Mine.

This isn't some new thing Strange New Worlds invented. Star Trek has been borrowing familiar stories and putting its own spin on them for over 60 years.
Hasn't "Mudd's Women" been done a time or two in Westerns?
 
Depending on generational nostalgia alone to sell your product is foolish. I think that was a trap CBS ended up falling into.

To be fair, you're not going to get a young audience to show up to watch a show on a brand new streaming service. Young people watch more streaming stuff than linear, but the way CBS All Access was rolled out, it was pretty much guaranteed that only hardcore Trekkies were going to find it.

The only real mistake I feel like CBS made was the budgeting and the VFX off the bat. Seemed like a big waste of money, adding a lot of flash which didn't add to storytelling, and didn't end up attracting a new audience. I think they could've cut the effects budget in like half and still probably got 95% of the viewership.
 
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Hasn't "Mudd's Women" been done a time or two in Westerns?
Hell, the last act of the episode feels and looks just like a Western movie set during a duststorm. Blowing sand or dust, howling noises, two people subsisting in a sparse hut with minimal technology and hardware to make their lives easier. They even hang a cooking pan outside to let the gritty dust blast the surface clean. "Mudd's Women" seems like rustic Western story in some scenes.
 
TNG's The Enemy was a take on the sci-fi movie Enemy Mine which itself was a take on the WWII movie, Hell on the Pacific.
And "Dawn(ENT)" was a take on "The Enemy(TNG)," only even more like Enemy Mine due to the reptillian companion who can barely speak in English. At least Centurion Bochra spoke in English and looked humanoid.
 
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