Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x09 - "Terrarium"

[IMC Headquarters]

I had the impression the Gorn presented here was geriatric. Just an impression, mind you.

Captain Decker gets promoted to Commodore for successfully immunizing the planet. Just an impression, mind you.

 

[Tuskin38]

I had the impression the Gorn presented here was geriatric.

I didn't get that impression, she was just badly injured.

 

[AntonyF]

Other than that, I think they handled the ticking clock with the vaccine wrong.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that. They doss around for episodes on end seeming to do very little then suddenly they have two things to do at once to add fake urgency. And again a reused plot device.

 

[AntonyF]

But please stop with the stupid surprise endings.

I'm curious was anyone actually surprised by the ending, at least in concept?

With the episode named Terrarium?

 

[JulieYBM]

I can't believe they did "bury your gays" in the year of our Gorn, 2025.

 

[The Hanuk Kai]

I'm curious was anyone actually surprised by the ending, at least in concept?

With the episode named Terrarium?

Surprise, as in withholding information until then very end, like the scavenger ship being humans. Withholding information makes it functionally irrelevant.

ETA: Ortegas earned her humanity on her own and on her own terms. The Metrons' commentary was unnecessary for the story.

 

[Tuskin38]

I can't believe they did "bury your gays" in the year of out Gorn, 2025.

Where in the episode was the Gorn implied to be gay?

 

[Noname On A Naughty List]

TNG did the same thing IIRC. I don't recall if it was a vaccine, but there was a medical emergency with a time limit.

Not excusing this episode doing it, just pointing out that I believe it has happened before in Trek.

TOS did it a couple of times as well, but the closest example to this SNW episode would be TOS S1 The Galileo Seven.

Two more examples of this from TOS would be TOS S2 Obsession and TOS S3 The Cloud Minders.

 

[Yistaan]

Meanwhile back on the Constellation--

Masada: Captain Decker, would you PLEASE stop nervously shuffling those datacards in your hand repeatedly?

Decker: I'm sorry, still nervous the Enterprise hasn't shown up with the vaccines yet.

 

[JulieYBM]

Where in the episode was the Gorn implied to be gay?

Read between the lines. Ortegas is queer-presenting, the Gorn is a giant lizard woman. They bond together in a desperate situation and Ortegas overcomes her misconceptions. That screams queer episode.

 

[Airmandan]

As others mentioned, this episode probably would have worked better if the Enterprise had gone off and delivered the meds then returned for Erica. Uhura’s emotional maturity this episode was an issue.

Read between the lines. Ortegas is queer-presenting, the Gorn is a giant lizard woman. They bond together in a desperate situation and Ortegas overcomes her misconceptions. That screams queer episode.

I think you’re reading way beyond the lines to something that wasn’t there

 

[Tuskin38]

Ortegas is queer-presenting

In what way? I never got that impression from any of her dialogue or story.

 

[The Hanuk Kai]

TOS did it a couple of times as well, but the closest example to this SNW episode would be TOS S1 The Galileo Seven.

Two more examples of this from TOS would be TOS S2 Obsession and TOS S3 The Cloud Minders.

The Return of Starbuck is a more direct comparison.

 

[Trekker4747]

Read between the lines. Ortegas is queer-presenting, the Gorn is a giant lizard woman. They bond together in a desperate situation and Ortegas overcomes her misconceptions. That screams queer episodes.

"Queer presenting?" :WTF:

 

[Yistaan]

As others mentioned, this episode probably would have worked better if the Enterprise had gone off and delivered the meds then returned for Erica. Uhura’s emotional maturity this episode was an issue.

Spock: The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Kirk: Or the one.

(they both glare at Uhura)

Uhura:

 

[The Hanuk Kai]

I can't believe they did "bury your gays" in the year of our Gorn, 2025.

Every now and then, a homosexual character can die. It makes the story relevant for everyone.

 

[Yistaan]

Every now and then, a homosexual character can die. It makes the story relevant for everyone.

Tony Gilroy brazenly killed one at Andor and got away with it.

 

[JulieYBM]

Every now and then, a homosexual character can die. It makes the story relevant for everyone.

This is not the context to be doing that kind of storyline in, though. This episode leaves way too much on the table, hence my criticism.

 

[Noname On A Naughty List]

The Return of Starbuck is a more direct comparison.

What's an episode of Battlestar Galactica 1980 have to do with what I posted?
(And I wouldn't even consider it a more direct comparison as the Seraphs DIDN'T pit the Cylons against the Colonials as an experiment.)

My post was specifically referencing other Original STAR TREK series episodes

 

[The Hanuk Kai]

This is not the context to be doing that kind of storyline in, though. This episode leaves way too much on the table, hence my criticism.

Why? It seems you are trying too hard to shoehorn cultural outrage onto the story.