Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x10 - "Hegemony"

[Pauln6]

Wow, that comparison is stretching a penny into copper wire, right there.

That's precisely what Bush and the writers were asked to do and they've done it brilliantly.

Yes, I would have done things differently. I would have stuck with her being a researcher with a background in paleobiology/ancient DNA, xenobiology, cybernetics, and exo-archeology (any one of which has story potential alongside M'Benga in Sickbay, including adjusting equipment and researching novel solutions) and I would not have thought to make her a nurse straight away (which I did not like) or a nursing veteran of the Klingon War (which I did like). I am certainly uneasy about drug-induced combat prowess (which I do not like). I think drafting her in to help in an emergency would have been a better way to introduce her to nursing and for her to acquire the taste for using her qualifications to help others outside her research lab that lead eventually to her being an MD.

As far as her personality and romantic trials go, I absolutely love the way they have fleshed her out, turned her dynamic with Spock on its head, and recast some of scenes in TOS in a fascinating new light.

Chapel appeared in all 3 TOS seasons in about as many episodes as Chekov, and yet she is forgettable, often not counted among the main characters when people talk only about the Big 7. Nobody is going to forget Jess Bush's Chapel.

 

[fireproof78]

Nobody is going to forget Jess Bush's Chapel.

No matter how hard we try.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Hell, early Kirk was just a sketch of a full-rounded character until the series progressed. We wouldn't hold James T. Kirk aloft as a pop culture icon unless the writers had time to develop the character and William Shatner had the time to decide how to play it.

We know that April, Winter, Pike and Kirk are all essentially the same character, before the actors and writers fleshed them out.

 

[Therin of Andor]

We know that April, Winter, Pike and Kirk are all essentially the same character, before the actors and writers fleshed them out.

Oh, and I just recalled an interview with Roddenberry, responding to early criticisms of Wesley Crusher that, in his mind, Wesley, Commander Riker and Admiral Kirk are the same character, at different points along a continuum. Remember that GR took a particular liking to Jonathan Frakes and personally coached him as he did the rounds of auditions for Riker.

 

[cooleddie74]

TNG Riker did have a Kirk vibe from the very beginning, right down to his eye for the ladies and bravado.

 

[Mike Farley]

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PIKE: What would Sigourney Weaver do?

Nuke the whole site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Finally watched this. It was perfectly fine, but I've definitely preferred other episodes earlier in the season.

Needs episode 2, of course.

 

[FederationHistorian]

I give it an 8/10.

I like that the season finale is a two-parter, but it happening when Paramount is pulling from Crave in Canada is a turnoff. Expecting everyone subbed to Crave to sub to P+ to see the conclusion is a big gamble.

 

[DrMike]

I give it an 8/10.

I like that the season finale is a two-parter, but it happening when Paramount is pulling from Crave in Canada is a turnoff. Expecting everyone subbed to Crave to sub to P+ to see the conclusion is a big gamble.

Wait, what? Damnit, that's where I was watching it. I tried a $1 one month trial of the paramount+ channel on Prime and it was terrible, absolutely not worth my money.

Are they going to force me to sail the high seas? Crave has been good value for money. The Canadian version of Paramount+ absolutely sucked, it didn't even have all the Treks! What is even the point of it, then?

 

[Quantum21]

Another good finale, probably not to the level of season one, but somewhere in that range.

I think we'll see more of the adult Gorn next year, and without a doubt, more about this strange stellar feeding cycle, which may or may not in turn have something to do with Gorn territorial movements and actions...which could lead possibly to...détente?

Here's hoping. 9/10

 

[Wingcommanderdarkwolf01]

That was so good. 9,8/10
I NEED SEASON 3 NOW!!!!

 

[ISS Enterprise]

That was so good. 9,8/10
I NEED SEASON 3 NOW!!!!

AND they must increase the episode count per season to say 20

8 to 10 per is really low IMO

 

[Mudd]

It would be very difficult to sustain this production quality at 20 episodes per year, for budgetary reasons if no others.

 

[Paul755]

I think 20 episodes is a bit too many. Somewhere around 15-18 feels like the sweet spot for nu-Trek.

Doing that many realistically means more one-off “bottle” episodes or “filler” if you want to call it that. But that’s not a bad thing, episodes like that are what made DS9 thrive and helped give it the most well rounded cast of any Trek show. There wouldn’t be any more “I wish we got an Ortegas episode” or “I wish so much of the Spock/Chapel relationship stuff didn’t happen off screen” for example.

If the writing is good who cares if an episode spends 95% of the run time with two characters stuck in a shuttlecraft (for example).

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I always found it interesting when people talk about life support being off, there's this idea that it instantly becomes deadly to be in those areas, when life support shutting down just means there will be no new support given in that area. What oxygen and heat remains will still be there for a while. A ship the size of the Enterprise would have oxygen and heat for hours before there would be any real danger.

Has anybody done a realistic analysis on how many hours they would have?

 

[Amaris]

Has anybody done a realistic analysis on how many hours they would have?

Probably some nerds. I found a 5 year old thread here: https://www.reddit.com/r/DaystromInstitute/comments/8robsw/life_support_on_the_uss_enterprise/

I don't think anyone came to any hard conclusions, though.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

If there are borders in space then spacefaring peoples have learned how to demark them. Don't overthink it because the people in universe already have done.

I believe in "Natural Borders" based on natural physical phenomena like how Rivers have been used to seperate territory in human history for Nation States or large Mountains.

Everything in a Planetary System's HelioSphere should be within the Natural Domain of the inhabitatnts of that StarSystem and be considered a "Border" of the Star System.

Spoiler: Natural structure of a Heliosphere

CSZ (Contiguous Spherical Zone) = Radius starts at the center-point of the Planetary System to the shortest possible radius that can envelope every aspect of the volume of the HelioTail (Consistently) at the transition point between the HelioTail and the rest of Galactic Space.

ESEZ (Exclusive Spherical Economic Zone) = Radius of (1 ly + CSZ Radius) that starts at the center-point of the Star System and extends out spherically forming a “Sphere of Economic Influence”


SDIZ (Space Defense Identification Zone) = Radius of (1 Parsec + CSZ Radius):
1 Parsec ~= 3.26 ly ~= 206,000 AU ~= 3.0856775814913673×1016 meters

Radius starts at the center-point of the Star System and extends out spherically forming the SDIZ. Any overlapping SDIZ must be worked out by treaties between the managing bodies of each Star System.

 

[DEWLine]

I give it an 8/10.

I like that the season finale is a two-parter, but it happening when Paramount is pulling from Crave in Canada is a turnoff. Expecting everyone subbed to Crave to sub to P+ to see the conclusion is a big gamble.

It absolutely is a big gamble. Frankly, it feels like gradual abandonment.

As for the proposals re: expanded episodes/season counts...I'd aim for 12-15 and see how it worked out for the next...two years?...before considering going for 20.

 

[TRON JA307020]

Well, then there are those of us who've seen every episode 30+ times.

Funny but tos is one of those shows I never get tired of. Rewatched the eps again and am on the 3rd season. Yup even the 3rd season I rewatch. There is some good stuff hidden even there. Arc based one story season treks like STD are not rewatchable. There are exceptions like picard season 3 but that changed it a bit by giving the tng characters their own eps. But I do like stand alone ep TV the best and snw does it well and gives the arc based story lovers enough to keep them on board to.

 

[cooleddie74]

TOS is not only peak Trek but may be peak 1960s television period.