Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x10 - "Hegemony"
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I never laughed at it. I just got older and realized it was a rubber suit and accepted that TOS was limited by the special effects technology of the Vietnam Era. There are times the hissing and methodical movements of the Gorn still sound and look interesting.
Yeah. I can't say the Gorn ever scared me. But I took it seriously enough. Good grief, Arena is pretty much foundational Star Trek. It's right up there with Devil in the Dark.
I'm assuming that they wrote Pike to say "Sometimes a monster is just a monster" so that a) it makes an even greater contrast to what happens with Kirk or b) unfortunately more likely, so that they can go through the exact same process next season as Kirk did. Which is going to make Arena look really stupid.
I don't think there is anyone who is saying "These Gorn are not like those Gorn" are arguing from the position of "Because they don't look like a rubber suit." But for some reason that's what we keep coming back to. "Oh, I suppose it can't be real Star Trek if it's not a guy in an obvious rubber suit, huh?" It's starting to feel like a bad faith argument.
But we know she will be, since Gorn infection killed Hemmer in "All Those Who Wander".
I like that the Gorn they used for the fight on the Cayuga's bridge was also just a guy in a suit, just a much more expensive and intricate one.
I'm hoping they won't repeat themselves.
Hemmer took his own life believing that no cure would be found.
Captain Batel is in Christine and M'Benga's hands now in sickbay.
They've got at least a year or two to come up with a cure.
(or at the very least a way to remove the infection)
My only argument is that a sample size of one is hard to conclude much off of for an entire species or galactic power.
No they didn't, the fall did. Hemmer didn't let them investigate treatments, as he felt it was too risky. So we don't know what treatments are possible. Now that Gorn show up on scanners maybe they can just beam them out.
Meet your new Gorn Queen, Queen of Gorn.Hemmer took his own life believing that no cure would be found.
Captain Batel is in Christine and M'Benga's hands now in sickbay.
They've got at least a year or two to come up with a cure.
(or at the very least a way to remove the infection)
Interesting concept, but highly unlikely.
Obviously Female Gorn have yet to be shown, but I don't think the Lizard Empire will end up being matriarchal in nature.
What may end up happening is that being infected and surviving may somehow be the way to fight the young.
The adolescent young won't attack those who appear infected.
The Transporter should be able to unabundle the Gorn from the human... Although the Gorn eggs went on a steady diet of "Batel" since as long as they've been alive so, it's possible that they are physiologically indecipherable from the rest of Marie as they are %99.99 comprised of human blood and gristle.
Hemmer was a powerful telepath. He might have been able to kill the Gorn babies telepathically by making them forget how to breathe, or trick the Gorn babies into eating each other, or reasoned with the Gorn babies to find a way to leave his body somehow without killing him... But he chose self termination rather than killing a hundred babies?
If the Gorn babies adopted the characteristics of their hosts, would the babies that ate their way out of Hemmer be albino, blind and telepathic? Would that make them Super Gorn or gimp Gorn?
Hemmer was a powerful telepath. He might have been able to kill the Gorn babies telepathically by making them forget how to breathe, or trick the Gorn babies into eating each other, or reasoned with the Gorn babies to find a way to leave his body somehow without killing him... But he chose self termination rather than killing a hundred babies?
If the Gorn babies adopted the characteristics of their hosts, would the babies that ate their way out of Hemmer be albino, blind and telepathic? Would that make them Super Gorn or gimp Gorn?
Wait, how do you know the one on the bridge wasn't female?
Uneducated guess using limited info from ARENA.
The slow moving tailless ones are the males.
Gender.
All the Gorn we have ever seen in SNW carry eggs.
GIRLS!!!!
Unless they are Marsupials?
A Female spits a clutch of Eggs into a male, and then he has a day to find an alternative host, or be the host?
All the Gorn we have ever seen in SNW carry eggs.
GIRLS!!!!
Unless they are Marsupials?
A Female spits a clutch of Eggs into a male, and then he has a day to find an alternative host, or be the host?
I just realized I haven't been paying that close attention. (or forgot)
Do the creatures actually deposit eggs into the host or do they inject a serum of some kind that causes the eggs to form?
And if they are being deposited, is it an oral or rectal insertion?
Or is it by cutting the body open then healing it.
Does a serum injection react with the hosts system as some kind of a sperm function?
Inquiring minds want to know?
Do the creatures actually deposit eggs into the host or do they inject a serum of some kind that causes the eggs to form?
And if they are being deposited, is it an oral or rectal insertion?
Or is it by cutting the body open then healing it.
Does a serum injection react with the hosts system as some kind of a sperm function?
Inquiring minds want to know?
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Hemmer took his own life believing that no cure would be found.
Captain Batel is in Christine and M'Benga's hands now in sickbay.
They've got at least a year or two to come up with a cure.
(or at the very least a way to remove the infection)
In the very first episode of the series, they used the transporter to beam medicine directly into Spock's bloodstream. Seems to me they could use it to beam those little Gornlings out of Batel's body.
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They said the eggs are connected to her body's systems. If they try to just remove them, it would kill her.
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Sometimes the old ways are the best ways. I love all of the work they put into making everything feel real. The visual effects people really need a pat on the back (and a raise) for doing such a great job.I like that the Gorn they used for the fight on the Cayuga's bridge was also just a guy in a suit, just a much more expensive and intricate one.
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