Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x10 - "Hegemony"

[DaveyNY]

"Come near me you Mo-Fo snake and I'll blow yer effin' brains out!"

Mickey means business

 

[cooleddie74]

Pizza Rat has had it up to here with the New York subway authorities taking away his pizza.

 

[DaveyNY]

Pizza Rat has had it up to here with the New York subway authorities taking away his pizza.

So, typical New Yorker, he hired a hit-mouse.

 

[cooleddie74]

Bronx rodents have a very thin skin under that fur.

 

[gvn2fly]

I think the OP is referring to the fact that in a big universe, that it gets smaller when you introduce Legacy characters.

Yes, exactly and I just don't think it's needed beyond the legacy characters that have already been introduced. If it was a passing moment in another episode, I would be ok with it, but do all the legacy characters need to also be involved with some of SNW's major events?

 

[fireproof78]

M--O-U-S-E.

PPK!

Grab your Glock.

 

[gvn2fly]

This episode didn’t really resonate much with me, don’t know if it was because it’s yet another aliens ripoff or for the internal fallacies.

I mean, first they discuss that there may be survivors on the saucer, then they forget completely about it and go with “let’s crash it”, then turns out that Chapel had in fact survived…how come she was the only one?! And what was that XenoGorn doing there anyway?

Also, at this point it’s just not possible that Kirk doesn’t know about the Gorn: Starfleet considers them a huge threat while he’s a first officer! I wish they had just gone with a new species (one would think they had learned after that mess with the Klingon redesign).

The rest of the episode…Meh, just nothing really interesting honestly. Also, the CGI for the Gorn youngling and the effect of Spock and Chapel in space were surprisingly bad for these days.

Didn’t feel the need to see scotty (and…bad grades? Scotty?) but ok, Batel being infected was obvious as otherwise it wouldn’t have been Aliens.

7. just because the acting was good, as were some of the other effects.

This is how I feel and agree with your post. I'd probably give it a 6 since this episode didn't "engage" with me at all. It looked great visually though. I'd still give the season an 8 though and best Trek season since the end of DS9 for me.

 

[DaveyNY]

Bronx rodents have a very thin skin under that fur.

And are allergic to bullets.

 

[Commander Troi]

This episode shows that adult gorn are bipedal.
I wonder what they were trying to do that required a command code, access the ships databanks?

THIS is the question I was left with. It also left with me with the impression that some Gorn are more intelligent than what we've seen so far.

I'm disappointed that I didn't see a Gorn gulp down a nitrogen grenade and burp frozen death.

Me too. Maybe in part 2.

Having Scotty was a surprise. The creators should be commended they kept it a secret from fans and the media until the end.

I'm amazed I didn't get spoiled on that!

Loved the fakeout of the survivors being beamed up, only to have the dreadful discovery that the Gorn beamed them up.

It actually took me a moment. I was like, hey we saw them beamed... oh shit.

First off: Arrrrgh!

Exactly. I almost posted just after watching last night to say that!

OTOH it's a neat trick when you have two characters that we KNOW are going to live for decades more and you're still hiding behind the couch yelling "TURN AROUND!" This is why I'm always annoyed when people complain there are no "stakes".

Yep. When we see the Cayuga all blowed up, my husband said, "Well, we know Chapel survives because she's on TOS." And I replied, "DO WE?!?"

It just occurred to me (and maybe I'm mixing up the points based on lack of coffee) that people think "MayberryLand" is anti-technology and yet backwards because it is "not walkable".

I would think that this town with a smaller population density would be more "livable" (especially with unlimited 23rd century energy) than those Fritz Lang monstrosities that we've been seeing since '09.

Yeah, I got the impression they had created a "Main Street USA" thing that was walkable and friendly and highly livable.

Gorn: Just watch. The big reveal next season will be when the Gorn leader walks out... And it looks JUST like Arena, only, you know, alive. Seriously, I would settle for one that could talk. Of course that would REALLY undermine Arena.

Seriously, not talk. I like having them be really alien to us. The whole "solar flares on meth" causing them to have a biological reaction was pretty cool IMO.

The "we love the Midwest" spirit clearly infects the solar system like it's a Dollar General franchise.

So that would be a shake and bake colony?

Tastes just like chicken...

It's completely hypothetical, but if you had a flying car, let alone a magic beam that can take you anywhere in the world (and into orbit), would you still want to drive a wheeled vehicle?

Nope. I used to love driving, but Phoenix has gotten so big and the traffic so nasty that I don't really anymore. And given how BIG and S P R E A D O U T it is (and how scattered about my friends are), I'd love to have a transporter.

Dammit! I hoped against hope they weren't going to kill off Batel, but I should have suspected they would.

She ain't dead yet! But yeah, it doesn't look good.

As predictable as a a few beats like that were, I find myself like that summer of BoBW where I have NO idea how they're going to resolve this. Much like then, we get to speculate like crazy.

 

[StarMan]

The Gorn suck.

Can't believe I ever liked them in Arena. But revisiting it now, watching SNW do some weird thing. They just suck.

No, it's not another timeline (fuck that noise). It just reinforces to me how much the Gorn just suck.

At the very least, I hope they move them beyond mindless aggression / screechy CGI monster. It's not that interesting.

Clearly there's more going on under the hood given their technological capability - we just don't know what yet. Perhaps next season the Gorn threat doesn't escalate, and some understanding (albeit limited) is achieved.

While I dig SNW's overall tone, I'd be keen for a compelling antagonist to cross their paths with some smarts - preferably not a callback to TOS.

 

[Tallguy]

So about the colony... Do they have a post office? (The Expanse, season 4.)

THIS is the question I was left with. It also left with me with the impression that some Gorn are more intelligent than what we've seen so far.

Personally I was picturing the Gorn typing in "Password" ding! Damn it! "PASSWORD" ding! Stupid humans! "password" ding! Oh come ON!

I'm amazed I didn't get spoiled on that!

I did. Two hours before. Headline. "Who is the new Scotty?"

At my house we call it "being Luke Skywalkered".

 

[cooleddie74]

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[Tuskin38]

It also left with me with the impression that some Gorn are more intelligent than what we've seen so far.

They have spaceships so of course they're intelligent.

 

[Fandango831]

because lower deck is about the familiar and pretty much nothing else also it's made by another team which isn't beholden to the design choice of other trek production(sadly) anyway i'm glad SNW didn't use that terrible rubber suit design

Exactly, and there's always wiggle room for SNW or other productions to adjust alien design aesthetics as needed and in a variety of cases can be explained away. As for the rubber suit gorn the best redesign I've seen is basically a tanky alligator biped that I suppose could be like the difference between adult caiman, gators, and gharial if the Gorn do have different subspecies. Don't think I'd try judo chopping this fella though.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I assume there will be a slow reveal of the Gorn over the course of the series. We will learn more about them and their culture. Somewhere down the line our heroes and the Gorn will talk, maybe face to face.

 

[fireproof78]

Don't think I'd try judo chopping this fella though.

Of course not.

That's what the double handed ax hit is for.

 

[Okmyx]

What would you call a Klingon - Gorn hybrid?

Klingorn?
Gorgon?

 

[cooleddie74]

A video game boss on the final level.

 

[Guy Gardener]

They have spaceships so of course they're intelligent.

When they get older they are more intelligent.

Is it possible we've only seen children up to this point?

 

[Tallguy]

Is it possible we've only seen children up to this point?

Of course not. They've also killed the children.