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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x03 - "Ghosts of Illyria"

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These are 2 different opinions you're giving.

Hitler is still referenced frequently enough with regards to right-wing politics that the general population hasn't forgotten. But who references Hirohito, by name, in public discourse? Next to no one.
Nazi's are referenced a lot in Right Wing circles (they try to infer they were Socialists to tar the Left.) But really can you cite/find any articles or transcripts that routinely mention Hitler by name? Also, most here follow politics and the political news to some degree - but in all honesty the majority of the general population really doesn't. They may read the occasional scandalous headline, but the majority of the people in the U.S. aren't interested.`

You can tell that by the number of people who actually bother to vote even in the U.S. Presidential elections. In general the HIGHEST turnouts was in 2020 with 68%; but in general, turnout is considered 'high' (in the U.S. when you get to around 50% - and for any other non-Presidential election the turnouts are much lower.
 
You can tell that by the number of people who actually bother to vote even in the U.S. Presidential elections. In general the HIGHEST turnouts was in 2020 with 68%; but in general, turnout is considered 'high' (in the U.S. when you get to around 50% - and for any other non-Presidential election the turnouts are much lower.
Ugh. I hated this in college and I still do. When I did my research in college it was 30%.
 
Then again I was a very latecomer to the eugenics theories of Virginia's native racial purist and all-around white supremacist asshole Walter Plecker. And I'd lived in Virginia my entire life up to the moment I learned his name.
 
Nazi's are referenced a lot in Right Wing circles (they try to infer they were Socialists to tar the Left.) But really can you cite/find any articles or transcripts that routinely mention Hitler by name? Also, most here follow politics and the political news to some degree - but in all honesty the majority of the general population really doesn't. They may read the occasional scandalous headline, but the majority of the people in the U.S. aren't interested.`

You can tell that by the number of people who actually bother to vote even in the U.S. Presidential elections. In general the HIGHEST turnouts was in 2020 with 68%; but in general, turnout is considered 'high' (in the U.S. when you get to around 50% - and for any other non-Presidential election the turnouts are much lower.
So are you backtracking your original statement that lots of the general population, in fact, know of Hirohito? To bring it back to the SNW topic at-hand, no, we shouldn't be surprised if people in the Federation would know of the Eugenics Wars but do not generally know of La'an's ancestor.
 
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Look, all it takes is for one kid to know who Khan is (or told by his parents) and he'll tell the rest, that's not a high bar to clear.

I was already a military history buff in elementary school, for example.
 
So are you backtracking your original statement that lots of the general population, in fact, know of Hirohito? To bring it back to the SNW topic at-hand, no, we shouldn't be surprised if people in the Federation would know of the Eugenics Wars but not generally know of La'an's ancestor.
No, I'm saying those that actually know of Hitler and what he did during WWII have a good chance of knowing of Hirohito and or Tojo because they probably have looked a bit more into WWII and other aspects of history.
 
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No, I'm saying those that actually know of Hitler and what he did during WWI have a good chance of knowing of Hirohito and or Tojo because they probably have looked a bit more into WWII and other aspects of history.
Did you really mean WWI? In that case you might be right. But on the whole, Hitler is simply much better known as a historical character.
 
To be honest I'd like to know if those people who couldn't also named Hirohito and Tojo would in fact also be able to recall who Adolph Hitler was and what he's known for.

If there's one constant in the population of the masses, it's that people are stupid; and most don't even bother to research anything past what they need to know for their day to day existence.

You may be surprised to find that after 80+ years, he may have faded a bit from the public consciousness as a whole as well.

( in fact I wonder if Jackoverfull would be able to recall who Pol Pot was ;))
I know well Pol Pot, but not from school. Tojo, on the other hand, is pretty much unknown to me. Hirohito is basically the only Japanese emperor you might hope a random Italian might know the name of and even so only the name and perhaps when he was in power, nothing else.

Hitler…who doesn’t know hitler?! He’s kinda seen as the embodiment of evil, even caricaturally so.
 
No, I'm saying those that actually know of Hitler and what he did during WWII have a good chance of knowing of Hirohito and or Tojo because they probably have looked a bit more into WWII and other aspects of history.
I don’t agree: Hitler is MUCH more famous than Hirohito (and Tojo isn’t famous at all). Everyone knows, at least superficially, what hitler stood for an how he looked, not that many know who Hirohito was and even fewer among those would recognise a photo of him.
 
Hell, Hitler comes up in internet conversations all the time.
Right, it's bizarre of the other poster to say I need to cite sources of Hitler references in modern times. It's a daily thing online, and when Trump was in office, half my FB feed every single day had Hitler references galore - referring to Trump's policies on the border, or detention centers, or white supremacy, or "China Flu," or any number of things. (I made plenty of those kinds of historical comparisons myself.) And these were from people of various backgrounds, not just history buffs. "Hitler" is very much still in the daily lexicon of modern discourse within all levels of society.
 
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Right, it's bizarre of the other poster to say I need to cite sources of Hitler references in modern times. It's a daily thing online, and when Trump was in office, half my FB feed every single day had Hitler references galore - referring to Trump's policies on the border, or detention centers, or white supremacy, or "China Flu," or any number of things. (I made plenty of those kinds of historical comparisons myself.) And these were from people of various backgrounds, not just history buffs. "Hitler" is very much still in the daily lexicon of modern discourse within all levels of society.
And next you're going to tell me everyone in the U.S. follows politics and the news very closely. Most honestly do not. The other fallacy is that everyone reads Twitter and Facebook or even care about politics in general.

I'm just saying the majority of people in the U.S. aren't as involved in following all this as you think they are.

You'd be surprised by what the masses don't know WRT history.
 
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