Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x03 - "Ghosts of Illyria"

[Enterpriserules]

The latest Saddle Up! is out now!

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

With his ego? He easily would have wanted the requisite "heir and a spare" at the very least.

Maybe he wanted to emulate his namesake Khan. He did seem to be pretty good with the ladies so maybe space seed has more meaning to it.

 

[UssGlenn]

Roger that. I still think the ridges are dissimilar enough that people who want to interpret them as separate species can reasonably do so, but this does at least seem to establish that the authorial intent is that they're the same species and thus Una is an alien.

I'm still not entirely convinced that the Illyrians aren't all modified humans,who left Earth early in the Warp era.

 

[cooleddie74]

The inhabitants of the old Earth colony in "The Masterpiece Society(TNG)" were on that world by sometime before 2168 and were unfamiliar with transporter technology so anything's possible. Once humans had warp engines that could get to a decent number of nearby star systems I imagine quite a few expeditions left Earth and were never heard from again or disappeared for generations.

 

[Tuskin38]

A short thing on Una. She is an alien who looks Human.
https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/strange-new-worlds-una-illyrian

 

[cooleddie74]

Or as we call aliens who look human, "most of Star Trek."

 

[Belz...]

I guess if she can pass a DNA test as human, she's human, even if she comes from an originally-alien species.

 

[137th Gebirg]

I just chalk it up to another child race of the Preservers, using Earth Human DNA to seed the galaxy, which would probably pass the sniff test on most genetic scans.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I just chalk it up to another child race of the Preservers, using Earth Human DNA to seed the galaxy, which would probably pass the sniff test on most genetic scans.

Preservers took entire cultures, not just DNA.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Good point - I might be thinking of "The Chase" aliens. I guess it was never explained if they were, in fact, the Preservers or another seeder parent race.

Edit: Looked on Memory Alpha on Preservers:

Ronald D. Moore has stated that he'd considered, but intentionally did not specify, that the ancient humanoids seen in "The Chase" were in fact the Preservers. He noted, "but this could be them and be internally consistent." (Star Trek: The Next Generation Companion (2nd ed., p. 244)) It should be noted that the Ancient humanoids seeded worlds 4.5 billion years ago, while Native American cultures only emerged in the last 10,000 years.
Despite the enormous gap, however, they are stated to be the same species in the DS9 comic book "Descendants" and in Star Trek Online. The idea was also part of the plot in the Star Trek: Federation proposal.
The Star Trek Encyclopedia (4th ed., vol. 2, p. 179) wonders "if the Preservers might have been the unknown alien agency responsible for protecting the aboriginal Ventu people on the Ledos planet in 'Natural Law'".

 

[Tuskin38]

I guess it was never explained if they were, in fact, the Preservers or another seeder parent race.

The timelines don't add up. The Chase aliens existed billions of years ago, while the preservers were active a few hundred years ago.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Good point - I might be thinking of "The Chase" aliens. I guess it was never explained if they were, in fact, the Preservers or another seeder parent race.

Edit: Looked on Memory Alpha on Preservers:

Ron Moore is wrong.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I'm still not entirely convinced that the Illyrians aren't all modified humans,who left Earth early in the Warp era.

I think it would be very cool if that were the case.

A short thing on Una. She is an alien who looks Human.
https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/strange-new-worlds-una-illyrian

Oh, OK. I guess it isn't.

 

[cooleddie74]

Once Cochrane's warp technology got disseminated out to the wider public you had to have a few groups of people who were looking for any excuse to leave a planet that almost destroyed itself a generation earlier. Hop in a small, crude warp ship with some supplies and head out to a nearby star system and hope for the best. And even if the worst happened they were away from Postatomic Horror Earth.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I suppose it's not out of the question that Illyrians crossbred with humans (assuming I didn't miss something where this was addressed) so that Una has quite a bit of bona fide human DNA.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I think it would be very cool if that were the case.


Oh, OK. I guess it isn't.

Continuity is fluid, so it can be someday.

 

[DEWLine]

Between the Boomers of ENT, and other clues dropped in stories like TNG's "When the Bough Breaks" and "The Masterpiece Society" and so on, I've gotten the sense that - between First Contact and the first Federation Day - there were a lot of ships that went out from Sol system with passengers and/or crew intent on never returning. Just set up shop somewhere else that none of the other local powers they knew about had already claimed and be done.

The problem with that was that they didn't have enough data on wherever they chose to go, even in the best of cases.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

The inhabitants of the old Earth colony in "The Masterpiece Society(TNG)" were on that world by sometime before 2168 and were unfamiliar with transporter technology so anything's possible. Once humans had warp engines that could get to a decent number of nearby star systems I imagine quite a few expeditions left Earth and were never heard from again or disappeared for generations.

Shure The Bringloidi said slán to Earth in the early 2100s so they did the crafty auld hoores.

 

[Noname Given]

Because the few we saw on the screen (ENT, TOS, TWOK) represented the total Augment population? Talk about stereotyping, or maybe they expected her to try and talk over the UFP!


Well they did not even figure out how to fix her human body properly, so they are not as clever as they want others to believe.
(powerful telepaths, terrible doctors)

It's interesting that if she did survive, they were unable to get any info from her unconscious mind, or any info a humans from the wreckage of the ship - even to the extent of a picture of a human to give them a basic idea of what a healthy human looked like.

But yeah, they may not be as powerful or as advanced as they would like alien visitors to believe.

 

[Belz...]

It's interesting that if she did survive, they were unable to get any info from her unconscious mind, or any info a humans from the wreckage of the ship - even to the extent of a picture of a human to give them a basic idea of what a healthy human looked like.

It's best not to think about these things too much.