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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x02 – “Beta Test”

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More like a "Yeah, it looks like what I've seen."
Yeah considering it's a real life campus, good catch. lol

I wouldn't be surprised if all the old Pre-Burn "Earth Media" was still widely spread around across the entirety of the UFP.
21st Century America's entire Video Library would be easily available to anybody.
Including how we talked.
Do you read stuff from 1000 years ago though? Let alone in a different language and culture?

Sure we're getting an adaptation of the Odyssey, but it's not being filmed in ancient Greek either. No one would watch it except super nerds.

I mean I'll get over it because I want to like the show, but it just grates because it takes me out of the show everytime someone talks like they're from Gossip Girl.
 
Yeah considering it's a real life campus, good catch. lol


Do you read stuff from 1000 years ago though? Let alone in a different language and culture?

Sure we're getting an adaptation of the Odyssey, but it's not being filmed in ancient Greek either. No one would watch it except super nerds.

I mean I'll get over it because I want to like the show, but it just grates because it takes me out of the show everytime someone talks like they're from Gossip Girl.

No, but I do have a copy of Monmouths History of the Kings of England, and have read Chaucer in the original Klingon English.
 
I feel like Caleb is adapting too fast. He’s been a runaway and criminal for the last 15 years.

Yes he’s breaking the rules at the academy, but he’s acting like any other rebellious teenager in a school drama, not like I’d expect of someone with his background
 
No, but I do have a copy of Monmouths History of the Kings of England, and have read Chaucer in the original Klingon English.
I have my copy of Riverside Chaucer that I haven't gotten rid of from 25 years ago, but I've never once ever thought to call someone a "queynte". lol
 
I feel like Caleb is adapting too fast. He’s been a runaway and criminal for the last 15 years.

Yes he’s breaking the rules at the academy, but he’s acting like any other rebellious teenager in a school drama, not like I’d expect of someone with his background
His arc is very Dal-like, which is maybe why I'm more forgiving of it.
 
This episode was kind of a snoozefest for me. It felt very Discovery-style: about 50 minutes of buildup for a five-minute resolution. It wasn’t bad, but it definitely felt like a filler episode.

That said, I did like the character of the Betazoid president’s daughter, and I got a chuckle out of the whole “Guardian of the Holy Mantle of Betazed” thing (or whatever his title was). I also liked the hint that she might be some kind of Tam Elbrun-type character.

What I don’t understand is why the Betazoids in this episode seem to be portrayed as empaths only. That’s especially strange with the (apparently) deaf-mute president, who needs an interpreter drone to speak and still uses sign language. On top of that, was that American Sign Language? If he’s signing, shouldn’t it be Betazoid sign language? And more importantly, why use sign language at all if you’re a species of telepaths? Sure, the president could be empath-only, but the whole thing made me scratch my head.

Because of that, the portrayal of the president felt awkward to me. His disability was emphasized so heavily that it ended up raising a lot of distracting questions. In real life, most people from marginalized groups don’t want to be singled out like that—usually the opposite—so the whole approach felt pretty strange.

I do kind of like the idea of Betazed becoming the new capital of the Federation. But again, for such a long buildup, everything was resolved so quickly that it almost veered into melodrama. And why are some of the Federation’s most important negotiations happening at Starfleet Academy instead of something like a proper Federation Council chamber?

So yeah—lots of questions. It was a decent episode, and I still like the show. But after that fantastic pilot, this one definitely felt like a bit of a snoozefest.
 
Because of that, the portrayal of the president felt awkward to me. His disability was emphasized so heavily that it ended up raising a lot of distracting questions. In real life, most people from marginalized groups don’t want to be singled out like that—usually the opposite—so the whole approach felt pretty strange.

Might wanna check up on the actor -
 
One thing I’m unclear on: the USS Athena is also Starfleet Academy. Is it also the War College, or is that a separate facility (sharing the Earthside campus) entirely?
 
I can't quote because it's a quote of a quote I guess, but there's a difference between someone reading Chaucer for a literature degree and teenagers reading Chaucer and then using Chaucer's slang for fun.

That said if someone wants to tell me that "Tight" and "Bitch" and "Unpaid dating coach energy" are going to be as endemic as Shakespearean phrases that still are in use today, I'd be willing to at least entertain the thought exercise but I'd really need someone to lay out how that would last a thousand years and a galaxy ending acopaclyse. lol
 
One thing I’m unclear on: the USS Athena is also Starfleet Academy. Is it also the War College, or is that a separate facility (sharing the Earthside campus) entirely?
I took it as a separate building, since they said they wanted to tour the "schools".
 
On top of that, was that American Sign Language? If he’s signing, shouldn’t it be Betazoid sign language? And more importantly, why use sign language at all if you’re a species of telepaths? Sure, the president could be empath-only, but the whole thing made me scratch my head.

Trek portrays almost all characters as speaking English, even when we don't see a human and have no reason to presume the UT is working. How is it any different to depict whatever local signing is used as ASL instead?
 
One thing I’m unclear on: the USS Athena is also Starfleet Academy. Is it also the War College, or is that a separate facility (sharing the Earthside campus) entirely?

As others have noted, I take it to mean a separate facility. Presumably, it only relocated back to San Francisco recently, given the whole Earth leaving the Federation thing.
 
Trek portrays almost all characters as speaking English, even when we don't see a human and have no reason to presume the UT is working. How is it any different to depict whatever local signing is used as ASL instead?
The universal translator explains spoken English, but that doesn’t resolve the internal inconsistency here. The president is Betazoid, meaning he can sense thoughts directly, so there’s no narrative reason for him to rely on sign language at all. Using ASL instead of an in-universe Betazoid system further breaks worldbuilding logic, drawing attention away from the story. This isn’t about realism for the audience—it’s about maintaining consistency within the fictional universe.
 
Do you read stuff from 1000 years ago though? Let alone in a different language and culture?
Depends on the story.
The Greek Plays & Tragedies are pretty old & timeless, right?

Sure we're getting an adaptation of the Odyssey, but it's not being filmed in ancient Greek either. No one would watch it except super nerds.
It's American Media, so of course it's not filmed in the Greek language.

I mean I'll get over it because I want to like the show, but it just grates because it takes me out of the show everytime someone talks like they're from Gossip Girl.
If you can't accept Young Adults talking like they're from Gossip Girl, which is a dated reference by this point in time, then it might not be for you.
The dialog fits the age bracket and the demographic they're targeting.
 
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