Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x02 - "New Eden"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Jan 24, 2019.

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  1. Guy Gardener

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    Less than 200 people squeezed into a church, had turned into 10,000 people spread across dozens of villages, 200 years later.

    Post apocalyptic and medieval are similar, but they got a lot more learning to hunker down on until they figure out medieval technology properly. A traveling saleswoman was handing out cheat sheets for 19th century technology to the kids from The Walking dead last year. Aquaducts, windmills, shoes, smelting, and a simple surgery guide for idiots. The people of New Eden off in the provinces are probably more reliant on what they have made, because that's all they have.
     
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  2. BillJ

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    Strong '6'/ Soft '7'.

    I liked this one. The show definitely seems stronger than season one. Anson Mount was a solid addition to the cast. Though I'm leery of the Klingon-centric "Point of Light".
     
  3. Ovation

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    Based on the views you stated on numerous occasions, skip it.
     
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    No fun. If I don't watch it, I can't come here and confidently bitch about it. ;)
     
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    I really don't think that matters ;)
     
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    get a hobby :devil:
     
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  8. Ovation

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    Really? Doesn’t seem to stop plenty of others.:whistle:
     
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  9. Nerys Myk

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    So a typical Star Trek Prime Directive episode, then

    There's one in La Barre France, I've heard.
     
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    "Nah" is not an effective counterargument. The Prime Directive itself evolved a bit over the course of Trek history before settling into what we think of it today.

    And in no way would that provide to a human colony that was only created by an unauthorized alien abduction that was done without the knowledge and consent of the initial inhabitants. The colony only exists because a crime was committed. It is a moral imperative for the rest of humanity to inform them what happened and offer them a choice for how they would like to proceed.
     
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    Bitching about Star Trek isn't a hobby??
     
  12. Nerys Myk

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    Best episode of Star Trek since The Inner Light. Beautiful. Slow to get going, but the payoff was the best in Star Trek history. 10 out of 10. Five stars.
     
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  15. Nerys Myk

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  17. Jackson_Roykirk

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    If the people who were originally taken away were still there, I might agree.

    However, the crime you say that was committed was NOT committed against these particular people. These people are neither from Earth nor were they abducted, but are native born to Terralysium, and have created -- and still developing -- their own unique culture there that has differences to Earth culture.

    So it isn't completely ridiculous to interpret General Order One the way Pike chose to.
     
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  18. Crewman6

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    The Prime Directive was written to prevent the natural development of other species and cultures.

    There is nothing at all that is "natural" about the development of those people. Their creation was the result of a criminal act done without the consent or participation of the original inhabitants. They are morally entitled to the truth about the origins and the reality of their situation.

    We've seen numerous episodes where Starfleet characters have directly intervened with primitive cultures as a corrective measure to interference that has already happened to them.
     
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  19. Guy Gardener

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    And it's still wrong.

    Hearings on a star ship Captain's behaviour are very rarely swift and immediate, because star ships do not cling to the home world.

    If Pike is going to get kicked out of Starfleet for what he did this week, it may not happen for another 5 years, or longer.
     
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    And now they have Jacob to do that.