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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x01 - "Brother"
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Brother
The first episode of the second season. Captain Pike of the Enterprise takes command of the Discovery as a result of the discovery of mysterious signals. However, that is not all the story is about. There is also Burnham's flashbacks to when she arrived at Sarek and Amanda's home. (About Spock not being exactly welcoming of his new foster sister.) These flashbacks seem to add to the overall plot of the season. But back to the main story. The Enterprise is somehow disabled, and that is why Pike is assigned to Discovery.
Pike is quick to get himself in the good graces of the Discovery crew regarding what happened in the last season with their last Captain (that he isn't Lorca). This was well done, especially with the Bridge Crew Roll Call. Sarek also plays a role in the story, especially when Burnham is surprised that Spock isn't aboard the Enterprise, but had taken leave. This is linked to the subplot mentioned above. (And a call forward, to Journey to Babel, when Sarek says that he hadn't talked to Spock for years.)
Then there is the rescue of the Haiwatha from the dark matter asteroid. This is rather well portrayed. Reno's ingenuity in keeping the patients alive was depicted very well, as was the effect of the stress of the situation upon her. The scenes in the landing pods, when Pike's pod malfunctions also were very good, showing Pike's character. However, the Tilly/Stamets scenes seem to be tacked on (moreso than the Spock flashbacks), but maybe there'll be payoff later in the season. (With more Culbur flashbacks?)
Then there is the episode's conclusion, where Burnham goes into Spock's quarters, and discovers that he had nightmares about the 'Red Angel'. Certainly an interesting development (making me wish it hadn't been spoiled in the trailers), I do want to find out what is going to happen. 8.5/10.
The first episode of the second season. Captain Pike of the Enterprise takes command of the Discovery as a result of the discovery of mysterious signals. However, that is not all the story is about. There is also Burnham's flashbacks to when she arrived at Sarek and Amanda's home. (About Spock not being exactly welcoming of his new foster sister.) These flashbacks seem to add to the overall plot of the season. But back to the main story. The Enterprise is somehow disabled, and that is why Pike is assigned to Discovery.
Pike is quick to get himself in the good graces of the Discovery crew regarding what happened in the last season with their last Captain (that he isn't Lorca). This was well done, especially with the Bridge Crew Roll Call. Sarek also plays a role in the story, especially when Burnham is surprised that Spock isn't aboard the Enterprise, but had taken leave. This is linked to the subplot mentioned above. (And a call forward, to Journey to Babel, when Sarek says that he hadn't talked to Spock for years.)
Then there is the rescue of the Haiwatha from the dark matter asteroid. This is rather well portrayed. Reno's ingenuity in keeping the patients alive was depicted very well, as was the effect of the stress of the situation upon her. The scenes in the landing pods, when Pike's pod malfunctions also were very good, showing Pike's character. However, the Tilly/Stamets scenes seem to be tacked on (moreso than the Spock flashbacks), but maybe there'll be payoff later in the season. (With more Culbur flashbacks?)
Then there is the episode's conclusion, where Burnham goes into Spock's quarters, and discovers that he had nightmares about the 'Red Angel'. Certainly an interesting development (making me wish it hadn't been spoiled in the trailers), I do want to find out what is going to happen. 8.5/10.
Sorry if this was already asked. If Sarek was leaving the Discovery "when they dropped out of warp", did they do so and not show us, or was he still aboard when they ran into the asteroid field?
Did they rendezvous with an Excelsior class ship along the way?
Did they rendezvous with an Excelsior class ship along the way?
Sorry if this was already asked. If Sarek was leaving the Discovery "when they dropped out of warp", did they do so and not show us, or was he still aboard when they ran into the asteroid field?
Did they rendezvous with an Excelsior class ship along the way?
I assumed he may have hopped a shuttle to vulcan.
One thing I would like to see this season is the trek trope of a rendezvous with a random starship.
The Enterprise wasn't random? But yeah, TNG sure got a lot of mileage out of one shot of the Enterprise D and an Excelsior class flying side by side.
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Sorry that's more of what I meant, a rendezvous with a random ship, to pick up a random dignitary or scientist. I always found it funny that there were like 3 different shots of the enterprise meeting with excelsior class ships, just shot at different angles.
The Maquis felt bad about their kinsmen having been slaughtered. I doubt the war would have even registered in comparison. No real telling how the Starfleet folks felt, especially with having been there at the wormhole just before the war... Perhaps "If only we had fired a couple of photon torpedoes to that thing there and then!"?
The E-E need not have been absent from the war - after all, Insurrection appears to take place quite some time after the war, what with Starfleet making outright alliances with former enemies, and the heroes explicitly worrying that they are missing out on exploration, not combat. Worf isn't fighting, either, and whatever vaguely defenses-related he was doing, he immediately dropped in favor of quality time with his old buddies, decidedly not defenses-related. And why would the Dominion negotiate during the war? "Statistical Probabilities" ought to have put a stop to that.
As for the Farragut business, odds are that Kirk didn't miss out on Burnham's War. After all, he's a famous warrior according to Garth, yet goes around claiming that violence is a thing of the past. His wild warrior days would be best placed as early as possible, then, but not in his cadet years yet. Quite possibly Lieutenant Kirk, initially content with teaching at the Academy, got sent out to the field with Captain Garrovick for the 2256-57 fight and never looked back.
Timo Saloniemi
Some fans believe if its not on screen it never happened...a silly concept considering we never see anyone go to the loo...
Pretty sure i've said this before but everyone in the 24th century was so perfect they no longer needed to shit. #genesvision
You can get to Vulcan from Earth in less than five minutes and that is about 16 ly away. (tic)
Starfleet KNEW if they put Picard in the fight with the 1701-E they'd LOOSE the ship, aas he'd first go in with Shields down and try to broker a peace agreement; wouldn't put the shields up until the 1701-E was damaged and he had casualties; and would respond with warning shots and weapons set at 50% power because he KNEW he'd be able to get thenm to listen to reason (even as his hip was bursting into flames around him...
[See TNG eps. - "The Battle", "Q-Who", "Best of Both Worlds" and "The Wounded" if you think my assessment of how Picard fights in a ship to ship firefight is in error.
So, they figured they'd keep him out of it and save ONE ship (which they'd turn over the Captain Jellico if it were one of the last one's left and let Jellico go win the war his way.)
And Picard would be arguing throughout the whole war that Starfleet is not the military and he's an explorer not a soldier blah , blah, blah
But in the 23rd century they still had to go ......
Which just means that if you fly in a straight line for a year you'll be a lot farther away. But it will still take a year to get back to where you started at the same speeds.
Look out people, “Doomcock” said bad things about DIS.
Well that settles it then:
Bad episode
Bad fans
Bad show
Thankfully someone who is smart with discerning tastes is around to tell us how to think
“We are the Doomcock” doesn’t quite have the same ring.
Five minutes? Where?
In the 2009 movie, the trip supposedly takes hours. Or at least Kirk has the mother of all hangovers to sleep off, and in the meantime, McCoy gets a change of clothes. And then Kirk starts walking semi-randomly through the ship in search of Uhura, and then of the bridge.
But if the ships of the general era are fast, Pike would simply be really far away when the recall orders began to be pondered.
Timo Saloniemi
Sigh... even if I wasn't planning on watching anything by a YouTuber named "Doomcock," why do people think we care about randos' opinions and feel the need to make a 45-fucking-minute long video about a TV show? Most rational people have better things to do with their time.
He's entertaining in small doses. But I disagree with him on most everything, "Brother" was a marked improvement over most everything from season one.
Mikey Spock!
You did not notice the tic, anyway whether it was five minutes or five hours the movie implied the Battle of Vulcan took place on the same day.
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Schrodinger's Enterprise... until seen or mentioned on screen it is both in the war and not in the war.
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