Yes. Feels. I was like "Aww, damn. There better be a reset button" Lol.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x11 - "The Wolf Inside"
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That's not a problem. It can be exported to some format like fbx, 3ds or obj which almost every 3D program can import.
I just mean that it’s a quick death. I imagined they would give them a very slow and painful death.
You mean like watching this episode??
LoL! It wasn’t that bad.
You had already made up your mind before you even watched though........
I noticed that Imperial lingerie is a lot more form fitting than standard Starfleet issue sack cloth singlets + briefs from the Prime Universe.
At first I thought the empty dark corridor at the beginning would be Mirror Discovery, hopefully disabled by the switch and sending distress calls. That would have been interesting.
Mirror Stamets obviously knows about our Stamets, and has known for some time now. I also think he knows they have switched ships, wherever he is. So either he's in the Prime universe now, or Emperor Georgiou knows very well who Burnham is. If Mirror Stamets is in the palace, she definitely knows.
The question is – does she also have a plan of her own in that whole clusterfuck? It feels like we have five or more separate parties secretly following over their own agenda, all of them hampered and yet advanced by where the plot is going:
1. Federation and Starfleet, hiding USS Discovery from the Empire, and waging a war on the Klingons
2. The Empire and Mirror Stafleet, hiding their ISS Discovery from the Federation in the Prime Universe (possible involvement of the Emperor in them being there).
3. The rebels.
4. Mirror Lorca playing our Starfleet, but also working against the Empire.
5. Voq/Tyler opposing the Klingon Houses under Kol, trying to infiltrate Starfleet and destroy the Federation, and opposed to the Rebels and Mirror Voq, but also the Empire. He's fish out of water if I have seen one.
But also maybe:
6. The Emperor may be up to something if Paul Stamets has shared things with her.
7. Stamets and Stamets may have yet their own agenda, as our Stamets wasn't exactly keen on the war effort, mirror Stamets may also not be.
8. Burnham is essentially a convinced criminal with no place in Starfleet, being there only because of an impostor Lorca, impostor and traitor against the Empire and Mirror Starfleet, and still in her mind friends with our Voq.
Damn, that's really complicated. We need a map on the relationships in that one.
Hot damn that was another solid episode. I'm really liking the mirror universe and by that I mean i'm scared of it. The Mirror Universe reminds me of those nightmares where you're being chased by something and you either can't use your legs to run away or you're calling for help and no one can hear you. I'm really glad that the showrunners decided to decided to go down this darker path and not camp it up with a pansexual seductress, Intendant Burnham.
With the exception of the cold open, the episode was fast paced
Likes:
- The continued visual 'oppressiveness' of the exterior space shots. As Burnham said, 'even the light here is different'. From the purple Nebulas, to the muted sunlight streaming through the windows of Burnhams quarters, the mirror universe has this unsettling look to it. It really add this foreboding atmosphere It's like even space has a evil goatee in the MU.
- Tilly continuing to come into her own. Portraying her mirror universe counterpart has given Tilly an edge. She is becoming much more sure of herself . I really like the interaction between Tilly and Saru. I liked that Saru showed faith in Tilly and gave her an opportunity to figure things out.
- I really enjoyed Saru in command this episode, he wasn't yelling at people or shouting orders, he seemed very in control and calm, despite their terrifying circumstances. Saru confronting and arresting Ash/Voq without his threat ganglia popping out was awesome. Bonus points for his 'even though you're a murderous piece of shit, we're starfleet and have to save your life' speech. He's come along way from the cowardly science officer of 'The Vulcan Hello' and the self-conscious Acting Captain of 'Choose your pain'.
- The Andorians and the Tellarites looked amazing.
- The Rebellion was cool as was the scene of their base getting glassed from orbit. My guess is that with Voq and the rebel leadership dead, Mirror Kol will rise to take his place. My guess is Mirror Kol will be an even bigger jerk and be the reason that the Klingons ended up taking over and enslaving everyone.
- Ash vs Mirror Voq. Ash's internal struggle made manifest. I loved that it was outer Voq that brought out Ash's inner Voq.
- The big reveal. Oh man, Shazad Latif and Sonequa did such an amazing job. The writers did a solid by not drawing out the Ash/Voq storyline and using the mirror universe to begin tying up this plot thread was inspired. Big shout out to Mirror Saru for saving burnham's bacon. We finally know what was done to Voq and an obviously very real Lieutenant Tyler on the prison ship. Watching the Klingons play operation (watch the sides guys) and literally shove a human into a Klingon body was brutal and heartbreaking.
- Mirror Detmer. The actress who plays her does so much with just a look, you can see the wheels of betrayal turning in her head.
- Emperor Fucking Georgiou. Sure we all saw it coming, but damn. I've never seen Michelle Yeoh play a villain before and I was quite surprised and impressed with how menacing she was. From next weeks trailer it looks like Georgiou has her own cruise liner probably called Emperor Georgiou I
- Stamets is officially through the looking glass, and Mirror Stamets is with him! Does this mean Mirror Discovery has a mirror spore drive. Is there an evil goateed Tardigrade on board? Do mirror universe spores have goatees? Why doesn't MU Stamets have a goatee??
Dislikes:
None. This episode fired all thrusters for me.
10/10 Agony booths
Next week looks like another thrill ride.
With the exception of the cold open, the episode was fast paced
Likes:
- The continued visual 'oppressiveness' of the exterior space shots. As Burnham said, 'even the light here is different'. From the purple Nebulas, to the muted sunlight streaming through the windows of Burnhams quarters, the mirror universe has this unsettling look to it. It really add this foreboding atmosphere It's like even space has a evil goatee in the MU.
- Tilly continuing to come into her own. Portraying her mirror universe counterpart has given Tilly an edge. She is becoming much more sure of herself . I really like the interaction between Tilly and Saru. I liked that Saru showed faith in Tilly and gave her an opportunity to figure things out.
- I really enjoyed Saru in command this episode, he wasn't yelling at people or shouting orders, he seemed very in control and calm, despite their terrifying circumstances. Saru confronting and arresting Ash/Voq without his threat ganglia popping out was awesome. Bonus points for his 'even though you're a murderous piece of shit, we're starfleet and have to save your life' speech. He's come along way from the cowardly science officer of 'The Vulcan Hello' and the self-conscious Acting Captain of 'Choose your pain'.
- The Andorians and the Tellarites looked amazing.
- The Rebellion was cool as was the scene of their base getting glassed from orbit. My guess is that with Voq and the rebel leadership dead, Mirror Kol will rise to take his place. My guess is Mirror Kol will be an even bigger jerk and be the reason that the Klingons ended up taking over and enslaving everyone.
- Ash vs Mirror Voq. Ash's internal struggle made manifest. I loved that it was outer Voq that brought out Ash's inner Voq.
- The big reveal. Oh man, Shazad Latif and Sonequa did such an amazing job. The writers did a solid by not drawing out the Ash/Voq storyline and using the mirror universe to begin tying up this plot thread was inspired. Big shout out to Mirror Saru for saving burnham's bacon. We finally know what was done to Voq and an obviously very real Lieutenant Tyler on the prison ship. Watching the Klingons play operation (watch the sides guys) and literally shove a human into a Klingon body was brutal and heartbreaking.
- Mirror Detmer. The actress who plays her does so much with just a look, you can see the wheels of betrayal turning in her head.
- Emperor Fucking Georgiou. Sure we all saw it coming, but damn. I've never seen Michelle Yeoh play a villain before and I was quite surprised and impressed with how menacing she was. From next weeks trailer it looks like Georgiou has her own cruise liner probably called Emperor Georgiou I
- Stamets is officially through the looking glass, and Mirror Stamets is with him! Does this mean Mirror Discovery has a mirror spore drive. Is there an evil goateed Tardigrade on board? Do mirror universe spores have goatees? Why doesn't MU Stamets have a goatee??
Dislikes:
None. This episode fired all thrusters for me.
10/10 Agony booths
Next week looks like another thrill ride.
Does Mirror Saru think that his way out (of slavery that looks like slavery) is being the Captain's pet or being the Captain's lover?
Bullshit. It was plain awful.
Did you watch? There was nothing sexual about his subservient role.
Can we get a new spinoff called. "Kelpien eye for the Terran guy?" 
Please enlighten us, what was your problem this time? Were the parts where Burnham actively sought to find a peaceful way to end the klingon war and where saru saved the life of a spy and murderer not starfleet enough for you or something?
Slaves work in the fields or slaves work in the house.
Once you get into the house, then you can work on your hands and knees scrubbing or you can work on your hands and knees polishing.
Mirror Saru was presented an opportunity.
The murderous sexually hungry Captain, has shown an uncharacteristically "tender" interest in Saru, interest that can be leveraged into a larger kennel and better food if he positions himself to replace Tyler, who we saw Mirror Saru throw across the room, proving his value to Captain Burnham, as a more potent and impressive "man" than Tyler.
Mirror Saru is not stupid enough to think that the Captain, a paranoid psychotic xenophobic, butcherer wants to compassionately befriend him, so unless she wants to hunt Saru for sport, or cook him for dinner, then Mirror Saru can stick a wedge into whatever her deal is, to increase his well being, and status aboard the Shenzou, even if that means submitting to her sexually, which isn't anywhere close to a red line, since Mirror Saru can be tortured or/and murdered for disobeying even innocuous orders from an Imperial Officer.
Or...
Mirror Saru who was born a slave, falls in love with anyone who shows him the smallest kindness, when he's expecting a whipping, because he was broken spiritually as a child, knows his place, and doesn't expect any more from the restrictive life allotted to him by the Empire.
I think he is like a really tall Dobby the House Elf from Harry Potter. I think we was devoted to Burnham because he's been conditioned to be but i don't think that extends to sex.
All the pre-title scenes, with the music, and Saru, were... something different. I got goosebumps. Somehow the atmosphere was something off of... I don't know... Blade Runner?
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