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SG-U – Sabotage (1x16) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)

Grade: Sabotage

  • 10 Chevrons - Best SGU Episode So Far!

    Votes: 4 6.3%
  • 9 Chevrons - Pretty Dam Good!

    Votes: 14 21.9%
  • 8 Chevrons - I liked it

    Votes: 27 42.2%
  • 7 Chevrons - Good

    Votes: 10 15.6%
  • 6 Chevrons - It was Alright

    Votes: 3 4.7%
  • 5 Chevrons - Average

    Votes: 4 6.3%
  • 4 Chevrons - Somewhat below Average

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 3 Chevrons - Meh, It made me Sleepy

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • 2 Chevrons - Piss Poor

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • 1 Chevrons - Sucked!..Through the Airlock!

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    64
All TV shows and movies have scenes and plot points that aren't absolutely essential, yet people only complain about sex not being necessary. Why is that?
 
All TV shows and movies have scenes and plot points that aren't absolutely essential, yet people only complain about sex not being necessary. Why is that?

Usually because they're the most obvious.

We are damned if we do and damned if we don't. If they include sex scenes then they're only put them in for us "fanboys" who can't get a real woman.

If we ask them not to then we're all repressed according to judgemental types who think they're better than others and have the right to tell them how to live.
 
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All TV shows and movies have scenes and plot points that aren't absolutely essential, yet people only complain about sex not being necessary. Why is that?

Usually because they're the most obvious.

We are damned if we do and damned if we don't. If they include sex scenes then they're only put them in for us "fanboys" who can't get a real woman.

If we ask them not to then we're all repressed according to judgemental types who think they're better than others and have the right to tell them how to live.

I would say this arguements premise is wrong its not about sex but about rape. In a SF writers way someone thought it might be cool to have sex even though our people were cut off. Then the backlash came and IMHO the case was made that you were also seeing sex without consent, rape.
 
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I would say this arguements premise is wrong its not about sex but about rape. In a SF writers way someone thought it might be cool to have sex even though our people were cut off. Then the backlash came and IMHO the case was made that you were also seeing sex without consent, rape.

I agree, but as has been discussed, it was apparently the backlash from fans on Gateworld that caused the plot of this episode to be altered and heavily watered down.

If this show is going to have sex scenes involving characters using the stones then it has to explore that properly.

What if, for instance, Character X uses someone else's body to visit his girlfriend ? No problem, right ? What if Character X and his girlfriend are in to BDSM and when the other guy gets his body back he finds whip marks all over his back and his anus feels like something has been inserted in to it ?

What if the obviously devout Christian Lt. Scott has to give a mission report and, in the meantime, the guy walking around in his body decides to visit his boyfriend who he hasn't seen since he got stuck on Destiny ?
 
It would probably make for a more interesting story if someone was permanently injured during the course of a body swap--catching a fatal illness, losing a limb, something like that. It would take something pretty severe to make the brass come down on the use of the stones for recreation.
 
I voted average.

What always strikes me as odd is how humans have advanced technology to create starships etc from the Stargate but no advances to cure cancer or other injuries.

Seriously over a decade of advanced tech and still no cure for cancer or regrowing organs and limbs cheaply/quickly.

They have - the G'aould Sarcophagus technology healed ALL human injury and extended the 'life' of a human body (back in the SG-1 days Daniel used one for weeks); but they found that extended use started causing mental abhoration; and that's probably contruted to the G'aould's overall meglomania; so it was an 'ancient's' tech that they couldn't 'work the bugs out of'.
 
^Actually, as Daniel has demonstrated, the one-off use of a sarcophagus has no such effects. The problem is finding one to use.

The Telchak device, however, had severe side effects and is far too dangerous to use.
 
To be fair, BSG did the same thing. How many times did they show hetero sex, just barely staying out of graphic territory? But when we had the Cain/Gina thing, and the many Eights, the most they'd show was a chaste kiss.

Well, to be fair, they claimed that they wanted to go farther with Cain and Gina, since they had the unrated DVD to play with. The trouble was, all the Cain scenes in "Razor" were flashbacks from Shaw's perspective, and it just seemed a little odd that Shaw would've had the chance to see her C.O. getting it on.
 
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To be fair, BSG did the same thing. How many times did they show hetero sex, just barely staying out of graphic territory? But when we had the Cain/Gina thing, and the many Eights, the most they'd show was a chaste kiss.

Well, to be fair, they claimed that they wanted to go farther with Cain and Gina, since they had the unrated DVD to play with. The trouble was, all the Cain scenes in Razor were flashbacks from Shaw's perspective, and it just seemed a little odd that Shaw would've had the chance to see her C.O. getting it on.

On the other hand 13 on broadcast TV FOX's House did go there with one of her lovers
 
Well I would never let a male gay crewmember swap with my body. Thats all I need when i return to it, to have shaved testicles, a very sore ass and a weird salty taste in my mouth! lol

I note with some amusement your rank here in the BBS is "REAR admiral." :guffaw:
 
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On the other hand 13 on broadcast TV FOX's House did go there with one of her lovers

Yes, but Thirteen as a character has been accused of being nothing more than pandering to the male viewers as well.

This is not a view I share, by the way.
 
Not a bad episode, but definitely a step down from last week. The abrupt resolution of the Lost Trio storyline definitely robs this episode of some drama.

+1

Also, count me as another person who finds the lesbian scenes tedious (and to be robbed of any chance of lesbo sex due to the hosts disability, sheesh). For that matter, most of the on-Earth scenes are insipid. Wish those cursed stones never saw the light of day.

-Jamman
 
They finally answer how everyone has managed basic grooming (they all have electric razors...which I assume will never see their batteries empty or their blades go dull, but, whatever).

Blades going dull is a good question, but they do have the recharge station that can probably keep the item fully charged up.

I really don't get the controversy angle here. Did Wray use the woman's body in a previous episode to have sex with her partner? Was that made clear? If so how come no uproar over that? So it is okay for a lesbian to use another woman's body to have lesbian sex (considering the host may or may not have been gay) but not okay for a straight woman to use a lesbian woman's body for hetero sex..

Yep...apparently so.

I think the sex should stay outta Stargate

That's going to be tough when the Stargate itself looks like a huge gaping vagina! :p
 
I really don't get the controversy angle here. Did Wray use the woman's body in a previous episode to have sex with her partner? Was that made clear? If so how come no uproar over that? So it is okay for a lesbian to use another woman's body to have lesbian sex (considering the host may or may not have been gay) but not okay for a straight woman to use a lesbian woman's body for hetero sex..

Yep...apparently so.

It's the fact that the issue seems to have been avoided due to the complaints from a few people on Gateworld that's the problem.
 
8/10

The anticlimactic end to the Eli/Chloe/Scott thing bugged me, but I really loved the scenes with Rush and with TJ/Young. I'm actually VERY excited about the next episode. I've been backing them up on my DVR, but I'll probably watch Friday's episode on time.
 
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