SG-U – Sabotage (1x16) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)

[Star Wolf]

Re: SG-U

I must have missed this part who sabotaged the ship and how?

We don't know that it was, it could have been battle damage. LT James fears she was stoned by the catfish aliens and her body did it. How they were able to access it for sabotage, who knows.

 

[Captain Shaw]

I really enjoyed this episode.
I thought they handled the body swap story line well but I feel there is more to Chloe, Eli, and Scott getting back than what we saw.

 

[DWF]

Re: SG-U

I must have missed this part who sabotaged the ship and how?

We don't know that it was, it could have been battle damage. LT James fears she was stoned by the catfish aliens and her body did it. How they were able to access it for sabotage, who knows.

Probably though the stones, she must've used the stones in the past to return to earth.

 

[Kirby]

Another fucking montage? Are you kidding me? Oooh, and the song goes 'only if you run', and the camera pans over to people getting their cardio on... how clever

Whenever a montage starts I take the opportunity to flip through a magazine until the crappy music stops.

The montage I want to see is when they get a whole bunch of food and they're having a feast to Weird Al's "Eat It"

 

[Star Wolf]

Re: SG-U

I really enjoyed this episode.
I thought they handled the body swap story line well but I feel there is more to Chloe, Eli, and Scott getting back than what we saw.

Why? Its stargate not transporter. The ship dropped out of FTL the gates told each other another gate is in the system and the gate told the mobile DHD. To be fair I've had a problem with the one gate in range thing that Universe had used until now.

 

[propita]

Re: SG-U

So were Eli et al, having realized they went the wrong direction, hopping through stargates trying to catch up? And when Destiny dropped out of FTL, they were able to? If so, I thought they were best-guessing among a small option of gates each time. No?

And I agree that there could be more to it all. At minimum, the Smurgs tracked them to the planet and caught up somehow that way.

Still not minding the montages for a quick peek into what's happening without a lot of expositition. As soon as I saw the coil, I knew it was a still--surprised there wasn't one already.

 

[David cgc]

After they found the crashed ship, Eli (with Chloe's alien-mind literacy) was able to pull up their stargate map and figure out which one was the end of the line. After that, they were able to go there without any more guessing.

 

[Hermiod]

8/10.

Though, IIRC, this storyline was supposed to be a tad more controversial than it ended up being.

 

[Valandil]

I love this series. Nuff said.

 

[Star Wolf]

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8/10.

Though, IIRC, this storyline was supposed to be a tad more controversial than it ended up being.

Over on TWoP the therory is that after the storm of comments about the stone rape and beating of Colonel Telford this was recut during the hiatus.

 

[Hermiod]

Re: SG-U

8/10.

Though, IIRC, this storyline was supposed to be a tad more controversial than it ended up being.

Over on TWoP the therory is that after the storm of comments about the stone rape and beating of Colonel Telford this was recut during the hiatus.

I don't really remember there being that much of a storm over that, probably because it was two guys involved. Nobody cares when that happens.

 

[Training]

8/10.

Though, IIRC, this storyline was supposed to be a tad more controversial than it ended up being.

In what was released early on. The Dr was really happy that she wasn't disabled anymore and decided to enjoy her time and was desperate to have sex for the first time in her life with a man. In a Lesbians body. Which pissed off some of people.

I was more worried it was going to end up like one of those silly Sci-Fi storyline. I'm glad they didn't. This was a great episode. Two good episodes in a row. I hope they keep the momentum.

 

[Hermiod]

In what was released early on. The Dr was really happy that she wasn't disabled anymore and decided to enjoy her time and was desperate to have sex for the first time in her life with a man. In a Lesbians body. Which pissed off some of people.

I know, and I wish they'd gone through with it. It's the kind of story you can only do in Science Fiction and the sort of people who would have been angry about it would have been the Women Only Book Club types like Camille's girlfriend who frankly deserve to be irritated once in a while.

 

[Jax]

Meh, it was alright. I didn't buy those three coming back so easily with not much in the way of explanation, and the whole thing with James being taken over by the aliens was a little forced. And what exactly did Little Miss Perfect do to help them besides give James a reason to get the aliens to take over her body and give Camile a chance to go home?
Worst one of the second half for me.

There was an explanation dropping out of FTL allowed the gates to work. Little Miss Perfect helped Rush bypass the systems since she is an FTL expert.

 

[Harvey]

To save myself some time...

I liked the way they used the stones this week. Seeing Camile having to endure time in a disabled body was both attention grabbing and gut-wrenching.

Agreed. They handled this storyline quite well, which was a welcome change from the way the stones were used in season 1.0.

The shots of the Destiny outside the galaxy were nice.

Agreed.

I wasn't expecting the threesome to find their way back so soon. It was too soon in fact. I was hoping they'd milk this storyline a little more. At one point, I even thought they might be imposters. How did they get back anyway? Weren't they out of range?

It was certainly anti-climactic. Unless there's something else going on with these characters (the episode doesn't seem to suggest it) this made for a major disappointment. And I see that Chloe/Scott is still a thing, despite the actors having less chemistry with each other than two pieces of cardboard.

Ascension was mentioned again. I've thought for a while now that that's what Rush is after.

I assume that the scientist in the chair (Franklin?) ascended at the end of the episode. Which ties into Rush's obsession. Speaking of Rush, he's finally becoming an actual character instead of the brilliant asshole. It sure took them long enough.

It would have been a real hoot if Rush had had sex with Little Miss Brilliant (gotta look up her name). He'd actually be sleeping with Camile's body.

I for one am glad at least one character acknowledged the moral complexity of using someone else's body to have sex with when using the stones (and from Rush no less!).

As others have complained, the pop-music montages are getting heavily overused at this point, and the one in this episode was no exception.

They finally answer how everyone has managed basic grooming (they all have electric razors...which I assume will never see their batteries empty or their blades go dull, but, whatever).

I'm not sure I believe that one of the principal scientists would have the time and materials to make and use a still. It feels like another thing lifted from Galactica that doesn't quite fit on this show.

Complaints aside, it was a surprisingly watchable episode. Outside of the Greer flashbacks, it looks like the team being separated from the Destiny is the real dud of season 1.5.

7/10.

 

[Silent_Bob]

I voted average.

What always strikes me as odd is how humans have advanced technology to create starships etc from the Stargate but no advances to cure cancer or other injuries.

Seriously over a decade of advanced tech and still no cure for cancer or regrowing organs and limbs cheaply/quickly.

I strikes me as very odd that they never ever acquired one of these sarcophagi. They could have saved hundreds of lives on dozens of occasions.

As others have said, Sarcophagus use has side effects and it's addictive. If one was acquired it would only be a matter of time before some NID or Trust idiot nicked it and tried to take over the world.
That said the Sarcophagus isn't the only piece of alien medical tech they've gotten their hands on. They have made repeated use of the Goa'uld handheld healing device, it just has a limit of being restricted to those who are either hosts , or formers hosts,of Symbiotes.

As for the actual thread topic, another great episode of SGU as far as i'm concerned. I might be the only one, but i'm finding their alien adversaries rather intimidating. It'll be interesting to see whether they remain a threat now that Destiny has left that particular galaxy.

 

[Hermiod]

Eli, Scott and Chloe making it back was perfectly well explained.

Destiny disappeared from the remote last week because it went to FTL, not because it was out of range. The engine then exploded, taking it out of FTL and so it reappeared on the remote.

I'm also going to assume that Atlantis is back in the Pegasus galaxy and that's why a certain foremost expert on Ancient technology wasn't called up here.

 

[The Wormhole]

Average.

Everyone else has already commented on it, but I'll take the opportunity to say that the way Scott and gang's return was handled was disappointing. I think I'd have preferred they just use a deus ex machina last week to let them return at the last moment. Yes, I acknowledge that had they done that I'd be the first to complain "lame deus ex machina, it'd be more interesting if the didn't make it back." I don't think there was any way to win with this storyline.

The story of the episode was boring. Mind you, due to the promos on Space I was under the impression the episode would be about the aliens making a play for Destiny. Instead, the aliens (and nearly everything in Space's promo) were just in the final ten minutes. A bit of a letdown from my perspective.

Honestly, I didn't care at all about the handicapped scientist finally able to "experience life" or however they worded it, and cared even less in Wray learning to cope with being disabled. It was somewhat interesting to see Rush interacting with someone who he actually respects, but the story otherwise offered nothing.

Really, this episode is just half an episode extended to cover a full timeslot. Ship is damaged, let's bring in a specialist to fix it. 35 minuted of doing so. Aliens attack, ship is fixed. Fly away.

Rush's stooge that sat in the chair I iamgine is going to become a "ghost in the machine." I doubt he Ascended, he's not that important to the show.

 

[AJBryant]

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If you are referring to the sarcophagus there was at least one side effect. Prolonged use turns the user into an ego-maniacal sociopath bent on universal domination.

Granted, but won't a single exposure "fix" everything that's wrong?

I'm still wondering why Daniel had to keep his glasses. (Actually, given the number of times when both he and Rush seem to function quite well without them, I wonder about the entire issue. As a spectacle-American myself, I'm useless without my specs.)

 

[Kaziarl]

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If you are referring to the sarcophagus there was at least one side effect. Prolonged use turns the user into an ego-maniacal sociopath bent on universal domination.

Granted, but won't a single exposure "fix" everything that's wrong?

I'm still wondering why Daniel had to keep his glasses. (Actually, given the number of times when both he and Rush seem to function quite well without them, I wonder about the entire issue. As a spectacle-American myself, I'm useless without my specs.)

I've known people who don't need glasses for anything else (my mother being one of them) but if she didn't have reading glasses on she'd get a headache when she read a book.