Claritin, apparently. The last time they mentioned them was in "The Broca Divide," when his and Dr. Fraiser's allergy meds protected them against the... (sigh) caveman infection. I guess the SGC's health plan covers the good stuff.
SG-U – Sabotage (1x16) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)
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Claritin, apparently. The last time they mentioned them was in "The Broca Divide," when his and Dr. Fraiser's allergy meds protected them against the... (sigh) caveman infection. I guess the SGC's health plan covers the good stuff.
When Young beat the crap out of Telford, the next episode was the one in which they found the gun in Young's quarters. I actually expected that Telford stoned aboard the Destiny to accuse Young of murder to get rid of him. Too bad they decided to make Rush the bad guy then.
The episode wasn't too bad apart from the tedious lesbian subplot. I hope they ditch that for s2 and maybe all the stones episodes aswell.
I wouldn't get rid of the stones, but they should be used more conservatively.
Ming-Na did a good job with her side of this, but her girlfriend is a stereotype. Women only book clubs for fans of 19th century 'chick-lit' ? Complaining that a couple of men showed up ? Really ? Really ?
Not if they're going to be anything like the ethnic peace crisp eating types presented here.
I can't remember how long Camille's last visit was, but if we're talking about a disabled woman using a lesbian's body to have sex with a man then surely we should discuss a lesbian woman using a heterosexual woman's body (apparently named MSgt Mooney) to have sex with a woman.
(Yes, I am presuming Mooney's own heterosexuality based on little more than the US Armed Forces' policy on such matters.)
Not a bad episode, but definitely a step down from last week. The abrupt resolution of the Lost Trio storyline definitely robs this episode of some drama. I like the way the FTL shutdown was done, though--very sudden, caught everyone off-guard, lots of injuries.
If the writers really did respond to pressure and that's why Rush didn't have sex with Little Miss Brilliant, I gotta say that's a load of shit, for the same reasons as everyone else. If Mooney didn't have any issues with Wray using her body for lesbian sex, the Wray shouldn't be able to gripe about LMB using her body for hetero sex. Oy. Only on a sci-fi show could we have these kinds of discussions.
It was interesting to see someone Rush actually cares about, though, and have him tone down the Machiavellian nonsense for a change.
I hope we find out what happened to Franklin before too long. My money is on ascension, but it could just as well be something else.
I see my concerns about the intergalactic voyage taking a long time were ill-founded. A few weeks, really? That's it? They should survive just fine. I like that we'll get to see more than one galaxy on this show, though. Makes it live up to its title, right? It would suck if it was called "Stargate: Some Nameless Galaxy on the Other Side of the Universe."
If the writers really did respond to pressure and that's why Rush didn't have sex with Little Miss Brilliant, I gotta say that's a load of shit, for the same reasons as everyone else. If Mooney didn't have any issues with Wray using her body for lesbian sex, the Wray shouldn't be able to gripe about LMB using her body for hetero sex. Oy. Only on a sci-fi show could we have these kinds of discussions.
It was interesting to see someone Rush actually cares about, though, and have him tone down the Machiavellian nonsense for a change.
I hope we find out what happened to Franklin before too long. My money is on ascension, but it could just as well be something else.
I see my concerns about the intergalactic voyage taking a long time were ill-founded. A few weeks, really? That's it? They should survive just fine. I like that we'll get to see more than one galaxy on this show, though. Makes it live up to its title, right? It would suck if it was called "Stargate: Some Nameless Galaxy on the Other Side of the Universe."
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There have been all kinds of Gatefail lesbian discussions from complaints about the normal casting of a couple made ready for straight porno to backing of off the gay sex and just showing a kiss while the two male leads are shown pumping their women.
There have been all kinds of Gatefail lesbian discussions from complaints about the normal casting of a couple made ready for straight porno to backing of off the gay sex and just showing a kiss while the two male leads are shown pumping their women.
Given the bits of Wray's relationship we've been shown so far, I think they might have shied away from showing any sex for fear of appearing exploitative.
Showing a guy pumping away at a girl? Meh, you get that all the time. A couple lesbians going at it? That's just too far!
To be fair, BSG did the same thing. How many times did they show hetero sex, just barely staying out of graphic territory? But when we had the Cain/Gina thing, and the many Eights, the most they'd show was a chaste kiss. It's almost like they get self-conscious where gay couples are involved. If it were just male/male ones I would think it was the ick factor--let's face it, hetero guys (the primary demo) aren't going to stomach too much guy/guy stuff. But they do it with the girl/girl situations, too, which would be easy demographic appeal if they went there.
In short, I guess SyFy is run by pansies who are afraid of offending anyone.
Showing a guy pumping away at a girl? Meh, you get that all the time. A couple lesbians going at it? That's just too far!
To be fair, BSG did the same thing. How many times did they show hetero sex, just barely staying out of graphic territory? But when we had the Cain/Gina thing, and the many Eights, the most they'd show was a chaste kiss. It's almost like they get self-conscious where gay couples are involved. If it were just male/male ones I would think it was the ick factor--let's face it, hetero guys (the primary demo) aren't going to stomach too much guy/guy stuff. But they do it with the girl/girl situations, too, which would be easy demographic appeal if they went there.
In short, I guess SyFy is run by pansies who are afraid of offending anyone.
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Well, let's take these arguments one at a time, shall we ?
Ming-Na is 46, Reiko Aylesworth is 37. While I personally still have the same crush on Ming-Na I've had for a decade, I wouldn't really say that either of them are the sort of women you'd see in "made for straight people" pornography.
Sure, they possibly did back off from showing any kind of gay sex scene but then I do not particularly mind that as I've found the sex scenes so far to be unnecessary. If, however, they had included such a scene I am one hundred percent certain that we would have many more complaints from people claiming that they were only included to titilate us straight male viewers - they can't win. If they included such a scene for that purpose there would also have been a certain amount of irony involved given that Camille's girlfriend is probably firmly in the "pornography exploits women" camp.
I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of people watching this show have some form of Internet access. If I or anyone else wants to watch pornography it's not exactly hard to find.
Stargate isn't very good at this, heterosexual scenes included. They should leave this stuff to Caprica.
Well, let's take these arguments one at a time, shall we ?
Ming-Na is 46, Reiko Aylesworth is 37. While I personally still have the same crush on Ming-Na I've had for a decade, I wouldn't really say that either of them are the sort of women you'd see in "made for straight people" pornography.
Sure, they possibly did back off from showing any kind of gay sex scene but then I do not particularly mind that as I've found the sex scenes so far to be unnecessary. If, however, they had included such a scene I am one hundred percent certain that we would have many more complaints from people claiming that they were only included to titilate us straight male viewers - they can't win. If they included such a scene for that purpose there would also have been a certain amount of irony involved given that Camille's girlfriend is probably firmly in the "pornography exploits women" camp.
I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of people watching this show have some form of Internet access. If I or anyone else wants to watch pornography it's not exactly hard to find.
Stargate isn't very good at this, heterosexual scenes included. They should leave this stuff to Caprica.
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I think they're doing great. I don't know where all the complaining is coming from. One of the best sex scenes I've ever seen was on SGU. It was when Young was having sex with his wife and the stone glitch caused him to swap with Telford. Now that was good scifi sex.
I have to admit that I dread sex scenes too, not because I think they don't belong, but because I don't look forward to all the complaints.
I've discovered that "sexophobia" is quite common on sci-fi forums, dating back to the days Enterprise was in production.
You know, the thing that bothered me about Wray being inside Sgt. Mooney's body was when Wray began wearing her own clothes. Sure is convenient Sgt. Mooney wears the same size clothing as Wray.
You know, the thing that bothered me about Wray being inside Sgt. Mooney's body was when Wray began wearing her own clothes. Sure is convenient Sgt. Mooney wears the same size clothing as Wray.
Where did you get that idea from ? You really are misrepresenting the views of others here if that's what you think they're saying.
SGU's sex scenes feel like an attempt to copy Battlestar Galactica. They feel out of place for the franchise. That's no indication of an aversion to sex in general.
Watching a 46 and a 37 year old having sex isn't all that exciting to me. I have this thing called pornography that does a better job in that regard. Television generally doesn't do a good job of representing anything like what I find exciting. See my recent discussion of Joe Washington's TV series idea.
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But you see it is more then SF fans. A lesbian blog spoiled Gatefail months before anyone saw the tame aired content. With the stone rap of Colonel Telford being the prime evidence of their fears.
But you see it is more then SF fans. A lesbian blog spoiled Gatefail months before anyone saw the tame aired content. With the stone rap of Colonel Telford being the prime evidence of their fears.
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From the sheer number of posts whining, bitching, or crying every time any kind of sex, sexual innuendo, or mildly flirtatious scene shows up in any sci-fi show. Be it Stargate, Doctor Who, or any other show. There's always an excuse for the whining, bitching, or crying. No matter what the material is, how tame it may be, or how appropriate it is for the scene/characters in question.
Now you see, that argument just doesn't wash with me.
First of all "whining, bitching or crying" ? Really ? I haven't seen anyone do anything of the sort here. If you choose to read that in to what other people have said then that's your problem.
I would rather have such discussion than have this show turn in to Baywatch where the women aren't there to do anything except bounce. Other shows do sexuality better than the Stargate franchise has proven capable of. You are free to disagree but you really need to buy a dictionary if you think anyone has "whined", "bitched" or "complained".
Second, this is the fourth thread in three days I've read where I've seen people like you whine, bitch and complain that the people on a Star Trek message board act like Star Trek fans. There are plenty of alternative forums if you want everyone to act like a dickhead who only cares about boobs, boobs and more boobs.
This goes for more people than just you - get off your high horse. Nobody, and I mean nobody on this board is in a position to judge anyone else's lives or supposed lack thereof - oooh, Poster X doesn't live up to my exacting specifications of what a "life" consists of so let's insult him behind his back and make jokes about buying him a prostitute for the night. You are all posting on a Star Trek message board. You all live in one fucking big glass house, quit throwing stones.
Well I would never let a male gay crewmember swap with my body. Thats all I need when i return to it, to have shaved testicles, a very sore ass and a weird salty taste in my mouth! lol
When the woman a few episodes back came back to her body after Wray had it, she just assumed Wary had a fish sandwich before swapping back..if she only knew!
When the woman a few episodes back came back to her body after Wray had it, she just assumed Wary had a fish sandwich before swapping back..if she only knew!
It is my opinion that sex scenes don't belong in Stargate, it doesn't need them to further the plot along, and I think it cheapens the show. They are trying so hard to be like nuBSG, imitating it, and it is so obvious, they are trying to be "hard core" but in reality there is no purpose for it, they are just doing it to do it, and that isn't a good enough reason.
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