Yeah, please don't.
Series 12 News & Spoilers
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Promotional interview pieces with some new scenes I believe.
Jodie was on The Graham Norton Show on Friday with Mandip in the audience (not on the coach I guess because it was already crowded with The Rock, Kevin Hart, and Sir Michael Palin). They showed a clip from the first episode with Stephen Fry and Dire Things were discussed.
The A.V. Club did an interview with Chibnall where he talked about the challenges of making a second season (and how it's easier in some ways) and what The Doctor and her companions will face.
One particular tidbit came out that I hadn't seen before: Goran Višnjić and Robert Glenister (who I had forgotten appeared in The Caves of Androzani) will portray Nikola Tesla and Thomas Edison, respectively, in a story focused on Tesla. I'm looking forward to that episode and I'm curious to see how it will depict to the two famous inventors (and hopefully not in a too-kindly light for Edison considering the shit he did and got away with historically).
One particular tidbit came out that I hadn't seen before: Goran Višnjić and Robert Glenister (who I had forgotten appeared in The Caves of Androzani) will portray Nikola Tesla and Thomas Edison, respectively, in a story focused on Tesla. I'm looking forward to that episode and I'm curious to see how it will depict to the two famous inventors (and hopefully not in a too-kindly light for Edison considering the shit he did and got away with historically).
Well, they already portrayed Churchill in a hagiographical way in series 5, so I'm not sure they'd go too far off the "historical" mould of Edison.
Yeah, that's true. Different showrunner but you're probably right. 
Honestly, I wish they'd go the all-out fantasy route. It never works to cater to history in these shows because, well, history itself is a very subjective matter.
History should not be subjective, it is simply something that happened.
What I hate is being told how I should feel about it.
What I hate is being told how I should feel about it.
Churchill is an important figure in British history, so it's not especially shocking a British show would present a romanticized depiction of him. Edison was American, so a British show can do an honest depiction of him without worrying about upsetting any patriotic Brits.
There's hope, then. But given the show's inherent affiliation with the anarchic qualities of its protagonist, its not outside the realm of (false) expectation that this kind of chance could've been taken.
Too bad a lot of people disagree even that. Its one of the reasons we, as a planet, will never learn from our past's mistakes.
1:22 from episode 1
History is always subjective; the historian interprets the evidence. Read enough on a subject and you can form your own view through theirs.
The past happened. History is the written account of it, and it’s inherently subjective.
Den of Geek has an article on changes to Tardis interior. Just text sadly, no pics:
https://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/doctor-who/68677/how-the-tardis-has-changed-for-doctor-who-series-12
https://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/doctor-who/68677/how-the-tardis-has-changed-for-doctor-who-series-12
Pics and a description here:
https://heraldpublicist.com/doctor-whos-tardis-an-exclusive-guide-to-the-new-changes/
[Note - the article has some strange translation issue]
My notes as a diehard TARDIS set nerd:
- An upper deck, which also serves as a distinct second door to the room. I was honestly surpirsed they left it out of the previous series, not that they spent much time in there in the first place.
- To make room for this, they removed one of the three "partitions" separating the central console area from the far walls. This was on my wish list - I understand how they meant for the partitions to create a sense of depth, but really all it did was force the cameras to stay tight to the actors, ruining the effect.
- Said partitions, as well as the crystal columns, all have metallic bases now instead of relying on lighting to blur the seams from the floor to the vertical pieces. The weird upside-down spider arm joints also get more blue lighting.
- A new ceiling appears in place of an undefined darkness above the set, with a corresponding stalactite above the stalagmite in the console. Other articles have noted that the spider arms will no longer move, just the central column. That's no big loss, we barely noticed them in the first place. The ceiling is also lit, which I hope will help brighten up the joint.
- The console regains its monitors, after a year of everyone looking at a vaguely-defined scanner on the wall. It seems to be some sort of mist-projection doohickey, which should be fun to see in action.
A lot of this seems to be the result of a switch in the show's production designer, when the original guy left to work on another show. It all sounds really positive, and hopefully will support more dynamic Tardis-set scenes this year... But IMO they're learning lessons they should have taken from previous sets to begin with.
Mark
https://heraldpublicist.com/doctor-whos-tardis-an-exclusive-guide-to-the-new-changes/
[Note - the article has some strange translation issue]
My notes as a diehard TARDIS set nerd:
- An upper deck, which also serves as a distinct second door to the room. I was honestly surpirsed they left it out of the previous series, not that they spent much time in there in the first place.
- To make room for this, they removed one of the three "partitions" separating the central console area from the far walls. This was on my wish list - I understand how they meant for the partitions to create a sense of depth, but really all it did was force the cameras to stay tight to the actors, ruining the effect.
- Said partitions, as well as the crystal columns, all have metallic bases now instead of relying on lighting to blur the seams from the floor to the vertical pieces. The weird upside-down spider arm joints also get more blue lighting.
- A new ceiling appears in place of an undefined darkness above the set, with a corresponding stalactite above the stalagmite in the console. Other articles have noted that the spider arms will no longer move, just the central column. That's no big loss, we barely noticed them in the first place. The ceiling is also lit, which I hope will help brighten up the joint.
- The console regains its monitors, after a year of everyone looking at a vaguely-defined scanner on the wall. It seems to be some sort of mist-projection doohickey, which should be fun to see in action.
A lot of this seems to be the result of a switch in the show's production designer, when the original guy left to work on another show. It all sounds really positive, and hopefully will support more dynamic Tardis-set scenes this year... But IMO they're learning lessons they should have taken from previous sets to begin with.
Mark
So, they've done the TARDIS up a bit? I still don't like it. Of course, they'd need to have more scenes in the TARDIS to really show any of it off.
The clip that Jodie shared on The Graham Norton Show has shown up online:
It’s been posted. It’s just the BBC America version you posted.
Ah, oops, I stand corrected. I hadn't noticed because I haven't been watching the clips posted here and only watched that one because it was on the show.
There's a rumor regarding "Spyfall" due some BBC youtube videos being taken down
The Master is in Spyfall and he is male again
