One element, character or storyline you'd remove...
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The emh. They completely overdid the hologram stuff.
I think Robert Picardo is an excellent actor, but I would have cast him as a medical officer who simply couldn't relate to people in a personal way. Or perhaps he was a doctor who spent his career in a lab doing research, was on Voyager for some contrived reason, and when the CMO was killed, he was forced into the position where he was forced to deal with people.
IMO, except for Red Dwarf, holographic characters don't work.
I think Robert Picardo is an excellent actor, but I would have cast him as a medical officer who simply couldn't relate to people in a personal way. Or perhaps he was a doctor who spent his career in a lab doing research, was on Voyager for some contrived reason, and when the CMO was killed, he was forced into the position where he was forced to deal with people.
IMO, except for Red Dwarf, holographic characters don't work.
I don't hate the Doctor, but I agree that sentient holograms in general were a can of worms that should never have been opened.
I'd also ditch the Borg Queen. She was very, very unnecessary (though she had some great scenes along the way!).
Wasn't there some episode of TNG where they used the transporter to cure some terminal disease by simply using an earlier stored copy of the person from before they contracted the illness? I'd definitely get rid of that. Otherwise, what's the use of doctors at all?
I'd also ditch the Borg Queen. She was very, very unnecessary (though she had some great scenes along the way!).
Wasn't there some episode of TNG where they used the transporter to cure some terminal disease by simply using an earlier stored copy of the person from before they contracted the illness? I'd definitely get rid of that. Otherwise, what's the use of doctors at all?
Aside from the Temporal Cold War, I'd do away with the 24th-Century Warp 10=infinite velocity bit and probably would establish that a ship's maximum warp speed is limited only by its engine output/interval before blowing up (nobody would have to worry about turning into salamanders at a certain speed).
I'd probably max the Enterprise-D at Warp 16 and the Voyager around Warp 18...
I'd probably max the Enterprise-D at Warp 16 and the Voyager around Warp 18...
That's why I have mixed feelings about the Borg Queen - First Contact was still the most commercially and critically successful TNG movie and "Dark Frontier", despite some of its failings, was on hindsight one of the better Borg episodes on Voyager, even though "Unimatrix Zero" and "Endgame" afterwards were forgettable.
Holograms could've been done better (maybe have a cultural rivalry between holograms and androids) but don't throw the baby out with bathwater, the EMH still rocks and I don't get the hate for Vic Fontaine (I liked "It's Only a Paper Moon").
Non-canon, but I liked one of the stories in one of the Strange New Worlds books that wrote about that energy lifeform that was stored in the computer on DS9 is what actually gave Vic his "sentience." That made it possible for me to buy into that holodeck character.
I really liked Vic Fontaine, mostly because of the actor. Doesn't anybody here feel nostalgia for the old Time Tunnel show?
And the pah-wraiths weren't ALL bad - they did get rid of that ultra-annoying Jadzia...
That argument only works if you find Jadzia ultra-annoying. Which means, it doesn't work for me at all.
I found Jadzia ultra-annoying from the very beginning.
Archer and Phlox casually deciding to withold a cure to a disease due to some absurd misunderstanding of how science, medicine, and evolution works, and a stupid "directive" that didn't even exist at the time of the decision.
that was an awkward sentence but oh well.
that was an awkward sentence but oh well.
That was another episode I'd remove, if I could remove up to 5 things from all of Trek.
Also, either remove VOY "Nothing Human" or rewrite it in the way that would make it less hypocritical, illogical, inconsistent with the rest of the show, hypocritical, blatantly racist (or should that be specist), and did I mention hypocritical?
The holodeck in general for me. Those were the episodes I hated the most as a child. I would groan, lie back and fall asleep on the carpet in front of the TV.
That and the replicators. Way to easy to be believable. It just reminds me of a line from one of the 'future' episodes of The Simpsons: "Everything is so much easier now that science has invented magic!"
The space pajamas. Apparently in the future we'll have no need for pockets, or dignity.
The terrible Ferengi-centric episodes DS9 subjected us to once or twice every season. And Grand Nagus Zek. DS9 is my absolute favourite trek series, but I always reach for the remote when "Profit and Lace" or "The Magnificent Ferengi" are on television.
I felt those episodes really detracted from the edginess of DS9--I get that they were generally meant as light comic relief type episodes in a fairly grim series, but some of them were simply embarrasing.
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This, and Voyager too.
7 of 9. VOY had eight (or nine, if you count Kes) fine characters who all could have done with much further development but who lost out because of her presence (Chakotay especially.) Nothing against her or Jeri Ryan, I just would rather the original crew had made it to the end.
I didn't like that self-imposed warp speed limit that was mentioned a few times in TNG and then dropped. That was lame.
So a naturally occurring creature made of photons that happened to infest a computer system and give rise to a completely unrelated consciousness that more or less acted like a human being is more believable than a program that was specifically designed for sapience and to act like a human being?
Now, not that I think Fontaine's Sinatra schtick was a great boon to DS9. Far from it. It worked in "Paper Moon" and frankly Fontaine was little more than a nuisance otherwise.
Regardless, if I were going to take something out of DS9, it'd be the pah-wraiths. All of that nonsense. (However, if I could retain "The Assignment," somehow, all the better, because that episode rocks.)
From all of Trek, maybe "Author, Author." I have no actual memory of watching this, but the intellectual property premise of the episode seems to undermine virtually everything ever said about the Federation's economy.
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