One element, character or storyline you'd remove...
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I don't mind the holodecks themselves, just all the holodeck malfunctions we've seen. Most of the time, those episodes were the least interesting.
Although, DS9's James Bond parody was fun.
get rid of geordi's VISOR. it's the 24th century, and they can't cure blindness/use a dead guy's eyes? WTF?
"whooshing" sound a door makes. again, they can't design a silent door? though i suppose it serves to announce someone's arrival.
Treaty of Algeron. cloaking devices ftw!
i could do without barclay. does starfleet just not do psych profiles before admitting people?
oh, and get rid of Chakotay's "Spirit Guide" crap. i know he's a native american, but i really don't wanna see that kind of stuff on a sci-fi show. actually, i really don't care to see any human religious references on star trek. other species would be fine, because it's new and interesting, and the gods might be aliens or something.
"whooshing" sound a door makes. again, they can't design a silent door? though i suppose it serves to announce someone's arrival.
Treaty of Algeron. cloaking devices ftw!
i could do without barclay. does starfleet just not do psych profiles before admitting people?
oh, and get rid of Chakotay's "Spirit Guide" crap. i know he's a native american, but i really don't wanna see that kind of stuff on a sci-fi show. actually, i really don't care to see any human religious references on star trek. other species would be fine, because it's new and interesting, and the gods might be aliens or something.
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I see people bring this up alot, and I really don't understand why. I mean, even today while severe enough mental issues can keep you out of the military, a social disorder like Broccoli's wouldn't. They actually try to help people with that sort of thing.
Plus, I guess he was some sort of genius, so they'd be more inclined to work with him.
My problem with Chakotay was that they didn't do their RESEARCH and use an actual tribe's customs...just Makekrapup village of Tribe Hollywood. If they're going to do it, they need to do it right.
I get tired, however, of this lame excuse that religion must somehow be banned from sci-fi. Contrary to what a lot of people on both sides think (and even some portrayals by the writers of Trek), there is NO inherent contradiction between science and religion. None. Period.
I think it's more interesting to have characters who are both scientific AND religious, but that's just me. Heck, have there be all three types with the non-religious scientists, the religious ones who are opposed to science dehumanizing everything, and those who try to have both.
Course, the real cause is just genuine lack of effort and interest from the production staff.
Course, the real cause is just genuine lack of effort and interest from the production staff.
That's what I mean. It's quite apparent that they can.
Yeah, I especially didn't care for that sort of guff. Though, admittedly, hologram slavery at least makes slightly more sense than, say, Bajoran slavery.
I can get on board with disliking "Section 31" per se. It's kind of in the name. A radical clique within Starfleet Security would've done the same job for the stories, whereas "Section 31" comes off as frankly a little too precious.
Seriously. I mean, it might--might--be forgiveable if they mixed up, say, Sioux and Apache traditions or something. Maybe not--if someone had a movie script where a French guy in America starts complaining about how he's used to driving on the left, I'd be pretty skeptical about the intelligence and commitment of the writers. But with Chakotay, there didn't seem to be even a sense of gross, continental-scale geography. He's living in a jungle, he's got medicine wheels, he comes from a long line of casino owners and thinks Zapata was an important leader of his people.
It got to the point that I wouldn't have been surprised if Chakotay started talking about the Dreamtime or about how he spent his young adulthood living in a yurt.
See, Anwar? This is what I meant by thoughtlessness.
It's more a case of them just having no interest in telling that kind of story, so they just ignored it or handwaved it away so they could focus on the stories they DID want to tell. Not thoughtlessness so much, as a direct conscious action to not tell those kinds of stories.
I'd get rid of the Temporal Cold War. It was a good idea, and could have resulted in some very good stories and episodes, but to cram it into a prequel series just doesn't work. It would have been much better to use it on Voyager.
The fact that Starfleet had all these ships makes perfect sense to me. I mean, a state as large as the Federation can't have a service which does all of its exploratory, scientific, and armed forces activities with only a handful of ships. Throw into the mix that Starfleet also carries out a lot of diplomatic functions for the Federation and it has to be gargantuan.
So, another thing I'd get rid of is the fact that everyone in Starfleet with the rank of Captain or higher knows each other on a first name basis. That never made sense to me. How, in such a colossal organization, could all these people know each other so well?
The fact that Starfleet had all these ships makes perfect sense to me. I mean, a state as large as the Federation can't have a service which does all of its exploratory, scientific, and armed forces activities with only a handful of ships. Throw into the mix that Starfleet also carries out a lot of diplomatic functions for the Federation and it has to be gargantuan.
So, another thing I'd get rid of is the fact that everyone in Starfleet with the rank of Captain or higher knows each other on a first name basis. That never made sense to me. How, in such a colossal organization, could all these people know each other so well?
I generally liked Chakotay having a spiritual life, rounded out the character and gave him depth. Like Tuvok's meditations, it showed there is more to the future than tapping consoles. There's also Janeway's coffee religion.
Chakotay having a spiritual life would've been fine IF THEY DID THEIR DAMN RESEARCH and actually worked with some actual Native Americans to give him an actual Native American culture.
Sorry...I just get kinda picky on that subject.
Eh, if we can have a Mexican play what is supposed to be an Indian (Khan) I don't think there's much problem with Beltran as Chakotay.
I'd be okay with his spiritual life stuff as long as they balanced it out with his Maquis leader stuff and other things. Last thing we need is for a show like Trek to give us their answer to the "Magical Negro" concept.
I'd be okay with his spiritual life stuff as long as they balanced it out with his Maquis leader stuff and other things. Last thing we need is for a show like Trek to give us their answer to the "Magical Negro" concept.
Mexican-American is Indian. Europeanized, but basically aboriginal American. I don't know enough about Beltran's family tree to say that he's "too European," nor care to know--but I could have easily bought him as a Central American Indian, until he opened his mouth and started spewing the nonsense the writers came up with.
At least 60% of the population of Mexico is mestizo (of mixed European and Amerindian origin), and 20-30% are Amerindian (or predominantly so). People of predominantly European descent are a minority - estimates vary from 9% to 17%.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/mx.html#People
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/379167/Mexico
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Mexico
And I believe that most Mexicans have Spanish last names.
I don't know about his mothers last name "Adame", but I did read once in an interview that he indeed said that his last name (Beltran) originally came from Basque.
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