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Don’t like recasts or retcons? This new show Starfleet Academy should be right up your alley then. ;)

Seriously though, the last rounds of marketing pushes have me more excited for the show than I originally anticipated. The fact that this will mainly be about brand new characters in a relatively new era mostly free of any baggage from previous shows give me hope that they’ll use the opportunity to create something fresh and unique. Mind you, I know this could still be a total flop, but right now the previews have me excited. What’s maybe not ideal is that the writers room looks very much like it’s staffed chiefly by veterans from Discovery and Picard. But I’ll remain cautiously optimistic that they’ll be able to make it work this time around. It’s a shame that with the Skydance/Paramount merger it very much looks like this won’t go beyond two seasons, regardless of whether it turns out to be good or bad.
I'm looking forward to SFA, a Trek show almost entirely unburdened by anything that has gone before (pun intended). Barring a few Disco characters and the EMH.
 
I'm looking forward to SFA, a Trek show almost entirely unburdened by anything that has gone before (pun intended). Barring a few Disco characters and the EMH.
You already got that with Discovery's 3rd to 5th seasons.

And the viewership pretty much bailed.
 
You already got that with Discovery's 3rd to 5th seasons.

And the viewership pretty much bailed.
We don't need the connections.

if haters hate the Abrams era, and the Kurtzman era, they will loathe the Skydance/Ellison era from the moment anything is announced. (Assuming Kurtzman is gone after his contract is up next year).

If I know Trekkies, they are never ever satisfied. 'This show isn't enough like TNG (Disco, SFA). This show is too much like TNG (VOY)'.
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The clip was okay, but it's not exactly the best thing ever. No one stood out to me as amazing. Aka seems fine. Braka... he could be a Ferengi, but keep everything else the same, and I wouldn't bat an eye. Read into that what you will. I think it's interesting that this clip chose to focus more on the adults than the cadets.

Sorry to talk about the actual clip itself, instead of conspiracy theories about other fans.
 
The clip was okay, but it's not exactly the best thing ever. No one stood out to me as amazing. Aka seems fine. Braka... he could be a Ferengi, but keep everything else the same, and I wouldn't bat an eye. Read into that what you will. I think it's interesting that this clip chose to focus more on the adults than the cadets.

Sorry to talk about the actual clip itself, instead of conspiracy theories about other fans.

One of the issues with the clip is it sells the "Star Trek" element, but not the "Starfleet Academy" very well. We see three of the young actors, essentially gawking and/or reacting silently.

It very much seems like this is their attempt to draw in standard Trekkies, as opposed to much of the promotional material, which is playing up the CW-ish aspect of it.
 
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One of the issues with the clip is it sells the "Star Trek" element, but not the "Starfleet Academy" very well. We see three of the young actors, essentially gawking and/or reacting silently.
I agree. It looks like standard Star Trek made today. Aka seems like a woman of action, meaning she gets things done not fistfights. The rest of her crew, they look like teachers on a starship. I could see them as faculty in an actual school. True, it's not "the military!", but Star Trek has rarely been that from TNG onward, and I imagine it would be even less so by the 32nd Century, so I don't take issue with that. And here they are dealing with normal Star Trek things.

I'd say putting the Academy on a ship like the Athena is actually a good idea. It's a good way for students to gain hands-on experience, learning by doing. It makes the Academy seem kind-of, sort-of like a voc-tech school. You learn your trade, i.e. your specialty, and then you hit the ground running with it when you graduate as an Ensign.

The only issue I have with that is putting the cadets in danger on a regular basis. Unless dealing with hostile aliens is outside the norm for the Athena.

They really need to show more of the kids. I get that this clip was meant to bring in the traditional fans, but the cadets are who are going to make or break this show potentially. So, it's important to show them and to get us interested in them.

As far as the 90210 criticism others have had, it could be that. But it could also be like The Breakfast Club, where the kids couldn't be any less alike if they tried. I think it's going to be neither of those, judging by the poster of them. I've never watched a CW show but it's probably something where they all eventually get along. I'm sure there will be some relationship drama, but it won't be constant like on 90210. I only watched 90210 once ever and not by choice (long story), so most of what I know about the show comes from promos and trailers whenever I'd be watching something else on FOX.
 
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I'd say putting the Academy on a ship like the Athena is actually a good idea. It's a good way for students to gain hands-on experience, learning by doing. It makes the Academy seem kind-of, sort-of like a voc-tech school. You learn your trade, i.e. your specialty, and then you hit the ground running with it when you graduate as an Ensign.

Keep in mind that Starfleet was, post-Burn, an independent, space-based organization where new crew was presumably trained on the job. While the Academy was officially reestablished, this might be something of a hybrid model as a sop to Earth - nominally HQed on earth, but keeping to recent tradition, where Starfleet kept mobile in order to be safe.

Some of the promo pictures show people in United Earth uniforms, so presumably Earth-Starfleet tensions will still be a background thing.

They really need to show more of the kids. I get that this clip was meant to bring in the traditional fans, but the cadets are who are going to make or break this show potentially. So, it's important to show them and to get us interested in them.

Indeed. I mean, I don't think modern Trek picked many bad actors (save for perhaps Evan Evagoria), but there's always the possibility your main cast includes a dud, particularly when picking younger actors.
 
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