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[Uhura's Song]

The fandom contains a massive culture that is populated with people who think that if they have big enough temper tantrums, they will always get what they want. I suspect they grew up with absurdly permissive and over-indulgent parents. In fairness, this is pretty much endemic to most genre fandoms these days - not just Trek. Baked into the DNA, more's the pity...

To be fair, the whole reason SNW existed, and TAS, was fan demand. And the TOS movies. And PRO S2. So...

 

[137th Gebirg]

Write-ins and petitions are one thing. Lying to, or injecting hopeum into, the fandom under false pretenses (the topic to which I was originally responding) is quite another - the latter being unacceptable, IMO. Two different approaches. Only one is legitimate.

 

[fireproof78]

I don’t think very many…if any…want 26 episodes a season. People just want more than 8-10.

Episode count should vary based on the show and the story or stories they are trying to tell. SNW could do 15-18 episodes easily. But Picard probably should have been capped at 4-6…especially the mostly wretched S2.

People already complain about stale ideas and recycled plots. I don't think I want more episodes just for that.

 

[The Wormhole]

To be fair, the whole reason SNW existed, and TAS, was fan demand. And the TOS movies. And PRO S2. So...

Hardly. Yes, there was fan demand, but those wouldn't have gotten greenlit without legitimate business related reasons to back the decision up.

And in the case of Prodigy, it was already greenlit for a second season, which was close to completion when the cancellation announcement came down. Netflix swooped in because it was a guaranteed money maker for them at little cost to them. But regardless, even if no one had picked up Prodigy S2 when the plug was pulled, the season would still exist, fan demand had nothing to do with that unless you consider any TV show currently in production owing its existence to fan demand.

 

[Dukhat]

To be fair, the whole reason SNW existed, and TAS, was fan demand. And the TOS movies. And PRO S2. So...

Goldsman was already interested in making a Pike show, and sold the idea to CBS, before the fans even knew about SNW. So its existence had nothing to do with the fans.

 

[Stewey]

Season after season of water polo and whining about his fucking dog?

ppft.

 

[Visitor1982]

Season after season of water polo and whining about his fucking dog?

ppft.

I'd rather have that than the whining of some 'fans' like you.

 

[Stewey]

I'd rather have that than the whining of some 'fans' like you.

People are so easily pleased these days, kind of explains the radical drop in quality of the past 25 years of drek that uses the franchise label.

 

[fireproof78]

I'd rather have that than the whining of some 'fans' like you.

Fans would rather be angry sometimes.

I teach parents that sometimes selective ignoring is the best way to decrease unwanted behavior. Fans would do well to learn that approach with the franchises they purportedly love putting out installments they don't like.

 

[Firebird]

People are so easily pleased these days, kind of explains the radical drop in quality of the past 25 years of drek that uses the franchise label.

 

[Tuskin38]

who opened Stewey's cryotube?

 

[Stewey]

who opened Stewey's cryotube?

Should have got a better lock?

 

[DaveyNY]

Should have got a better lock?

Perhap a better spiel would be more apropos.

You're repeating your old one ad nauseam.

 

[Ovation]

People are so easily pleased these days, kind of explains the radical drop in quality of the past 25 years of drek that uses the franchise label.

 

[Dukhat]

So until yesterday, your last post here was two and a half years ago. May I ask what necessitated your return just to bitch about a 15 year-old movie and a 25 year old tv show?

 

[DaveyNY]

So until yesterday, your last post here was two and a half years ago. May I ask what necessitated your return just to bitch about a 15 year-old movie and a 25 year old tv show?

Brain fart?

 

[Noname Given]

Did it? Or is that one of the Trek Myths?

Semi myth. The write in campaign was done at the studio by GR (he had his secretary type the initial letters and envelopes and distributed then to fan clubs to start it off.)

So yeah, the fans were definitely involved but FR did a big organized push himself to start it.

 

[Stewey]

So until yesterday, your last post here was two and a half years ago. May I ask what necessitated your return just to bitch about a 15 year-old movie and a 25 year old tv show?

Yes, you may ask.

 

[Takeru]

To be fair, the whole reason SNW existed, and TAS, was fan demand. And the TOS movies. And PRO S2. So...

SNW was planned to be made before Disco season 2 even aired, they wouldn't have cast Rebecca Romijn to do minor appearances as Number One if SNW wasn't a sure thing. The TOS movies were made because of Star Wars and Phase 2 was going to be made because TOS still had an audience and Paramount wanted a show for their new planned network, PRO season 2 was basically finished when it was cancelled. TAS was made to leverage the existing fanbase but that and the Phase 2 example are results of indirect fan demand through continued success of TOS, it's not like fans simply willed them into existence.
I just don't see the same happening here, Enterprise unlike TOS or the 24th century shows is not that popular.

 

[FederationHistorian]

Goldsman was already interested in making a Pike show, and sold the idea to CBS, before the fans even knew about SNW. So its existence had nothing to do with the fans.

It still hinged on fans liking DIS S2 to gather support. It was not a sure thing.