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Agents of SHIELD. Season 1 Discussion Thread

The AV Club reviewer speculates that maybe Paxton himself is the Clairvoyant - I doubt it, but it's an interesting idea. And it would have indeed been pretty wild if we'd lost a different Bus member during the effort to rescue Skye! :p
 
It seemed clear to me that this was some illegal facility and that Fury had gone to the dark side to save Coulson. What I'm curious about is why the facility was all but abandoned and rigged to self destruct.

My impression is that the facility was only staffed when in use. In times when there is no patient like Coulson, they shut down and leave just the security detail. TAHITI looked to be automated and did not need constant monitoring or support. Perhaps there was a staff that would show up periodically, but not daily.
I don't know. It was a huge facility, with a lot more stuff than could have been taken from one alien. Also, it just seems weird to leave an alien on automatic. :rommie: And another also, it seems like Coulson was probably the only person, or maybe one of a handful, to have that procedure, since Fury had to "move Heaven and Earth" to get it done. It's something that's not done on a routine basis. That's why I think it's a rogue facility.
 
I don't get why Fury "moved heaven and earth" to save Coulson. What's so important about him? I'm sure a lot of Shield agents have died in the past. Not to mention Coulson's greatest contribution to the Battle of New York was in death.

I guess like Skye is Coulson's special snowflake, Coulson is Fury's special snowflake.
 
I don't get why Fury "moved heaven and earth" to save Coulson. What's so important about him? I'm sure a lot of Shield agents have died in the past. Not to mention Coulson's greatest contribution to the Battle of New York was in death.

Who was Fury supposed to play chess with if he let Coulson die?

Technically, because of Coulson's actions, the Avengers gathered because of him (well, Hulk just tagged along) which ultimately saved the world. If anyone deserves to have his brain forcibly kept alive and be injected with some alien blood that has a side effect of repairing tissue, it's Coulson.

But really, who was Fury supposed to play chess with?
 
I don't get why Fury "moved heaven and earth" to save Coulson. What's so important about him? I'm sure a lot of Shield agents have died in the past.

I'm still partial to the idea that it was simply a matter of timing -- Fury didn't find out about the resurrection method until the Battle of New York, perhaps because it came from captured Chitauri technology (though the blue guy is hard to reconcile with that). So Coulson was his first test case, and the results were... problematical, too cruel to the subject to be worth trying again.
 
The program could have just been ready, and they asked for ground up meat to play with.

After the process is refined, it'll probably be SOP.

This was a reveal in the (DC) new 52 Suicide Squad comic book.

Amanda Waller keeps bringing the squad back whenever then die because it's really quite easy.
 
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I don't get why Fury "moved heaven and earth" to save Coulson. What's so important about him? I'm sure a lot of Shield agents have died in the past. Not to mention Coulson's greatest contribution to the Battle of New York was in death.

I guess like Skye is Coulson's special snowflake, Coulson is Fury's special snowflake.

It's certainly possible it was emotional rather than logical. Nick Fury strikes me as a man with few friends. They both were very involved in the Avengers Initiative when there were very few else who supported it. Maybe there's more, who knows.
 
I don't get why Fury "moved heaven and earth" to save Coulson. What's so important about him? I'm sure a lot of Shield agents have died in the past. Not to mention Coulson's greatest contribution to the Battle of New York was in death.

I guess like Skye is Coulson's special snowflake, Coulson is Fury's special snowflake.

It's certainly possible it was emotional rather than logical. Nick Fury strikes me as a man with few friends. They both were very involved in the Avengers Initiative when there were very few else who supported it. Maybe there's more, who knows.

I think that there is more. Whether we find out what that is this season or it becomes part of the plot next season is still to be determined.
 
It's hard to say. They seem determined to move most of the storylines along. The ones they haven't are the Ward backstory (which they might do more of now that John Garrett is involved) and "The Cavalry." I really do think they want the contours of Coulson's story to be complete by the end of this year. But it's a very plot-centered show, so who knows what they'll have room for?

Of course, it could just be that there isn't a big explanation of why he was brought back to life. The reason is actually simple: Disney and Marvel wanted to kill him off, Joss and Jed Wheddon wanted him to star in the show they made. In order to do both, they have to bring him back to life.
 
I finally watched the episode yesterday, and I really enjoyed it.
Right now I'm partial to the Kree theory when it comes to the blue dude in the tube. But I'm not sure if it'll actually be Mar'Vel. If they do bring him in, at this point I'm thinking it's more likely that he'll come to Earth looking for Blue. It would be a good tie into Guardians of the Galaxy since we already know that involves Ronan, which means the Kree do exist in the MCU. They also do seem to be some of the most prominent blue skinned humanoids in the Marvel universe, so with what little information we have right now, it does seems like the logical explanation of what/who he is.
 
I'm pretty sure the Kree are known to have different ethnic groups and the blue ones are just the most prominent....or at least the ones that happen to run into humans most often.
 

But the toy for Ronan the Accuser in the movie is blue-skinned. I don't think they'll make a movie toy that doesn't look like the movie character. Certainly, all the other toys look like their corresponding movie versions (you can confirm by comparing Korath the Pursuer to Ronan the Accuser).

I can't wait until there are more screengrabs from filming of Guardians so we don't only have a toy, but there are quite a few similarities between Ronan's toy and the blue guy in TAHITI. They have the same symbol, for one.
 
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