The Official STAR TREK Grading & Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Agent Richard07, Apr 30, 2009.

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Grade the movie...

  1. Excellent

    711 vote(s)
    62.9%
  2. Above Average

    213 vote(s)
    18.8%
  3. Average

    84 vote(s)
    7.4%
  4. Below Average

    46 vote(s)
    4.1%
  5. Poor

    77 vote(s)
    6.8%
  1. Ovation

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  2. SalvorHardin

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    The irony is that the 2 or 3 Trek XI threads that exist in TNZ were largely more gentle and civil than many threads have been in this forum :lol:
     
  3. Praetor

    Praetor Vice Admiral Admiral

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    This. ;)
     
  4. 3D Master

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    No. No, I'm not.

    I didn't call anyone anything. I invited you to call yourself something.
     
  5. M'Sharak

    M'Sharak Definitely Herbert. Maybe. Moderator

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    Oh, I think it's pretty clear that when you inferred that he must be the one or the other, it was nothing more than a sneaky flame. By then saying this:

    You've essentially admitted that you were trying to goad him into a particular response (which he's declined to accommodate you by giving, by the way.) That's trolling.

    So warned. Comments to PM
     
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  6. RobertScorpio

    RobertScorpio Pariah

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    Good post and I agree. They are living in an altered form of their own past. As to why Spock isn't fixing it? Why would he ever want to deny nuSPOCK some quality time with Uhura. Even Nimoy is down with that!!!!

    Rob
     
  7. Hartzilla2007

    Hartzilla2007 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Yes its a very good point.
     
  8. number6

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    A point that is easily lost on the purists who have elevated TOS to some sacred scroll in a golden ark.
     
  9. pookha

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    as to why spock prime isnt trying to fix perhaps he has seen over the years just how dangerous that can be with what happened as the aftermath of yesterday's enteprise and the creation of sela.
     
  10. Therin of Andor

    Therin of Andor Admiral Moderator

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    Hehehehehehe. Very true. And real life can also have the most amazing coincidences and hanging plot threads, which would look like a work of supposedly-weak fiction if it were made into a movie or a novel.
     
  11. Therin of Andor

    Therin of Andor Admiral Moderator

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    If he finds a starship to slingshot around a sun, what exactly should he do to destroy Nero's ship as it comes through the black hole? Somehow convince Starfleet to meet the Narada with a stronger fleet than 47 Klingon warbirds?
     
  12. indranee

    indranee Vice Admiral Admiral

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    real life makes no sense!! :scream:
     
  13. Anticitizen

    Anticitizen Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Red matter. Or, since he can apparently beam stuff from light-years away and through shields, beam a bomb on board from afar. It doesn't really matter.
     
  14. Hartzilla2007

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    Interstingly enough Orci or Kurtzman, which ever one was doing to Q and A at Trekmovie has commented that the warp slingshot around a sun timetravel thing doesn't work in NuTrek.

    All of Spock Prime's red matter slamed into the Narada at the end of the movie and he can't make more until 2387 if and thats if the technology is even still created in this timeline, also you still can't beam through shields so that wouldn't work.
     
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  15. pookha

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    i think the point that the narada destroyed the 47 klingon ships is the best case about just how hard it would be to change history.
     
  16. Borgminister

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    Wonder if there's gonna be a space battle showing that in the "extended cut"?
     
  17. Anticitizen

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    Okay, then have an automated ship on autopilot, travelling at warp speed, timed to slam into the Narada at Warp 7 the moment it emerges from the black hole. How it's done is not the point - I'm just saying that the character of Spock (prime) from TOS always seemed to think it was very important to 'restore' a timeline that got messed up, and it would seem out of character for him to do nothing. Which is why they should have gone with a straight-up reboot without the time travel.
     
  18. Australis

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    Anticitizen, that ship has sailed. Let it go.
     
  19. Anticitizen

    Anticitizen Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    This is the 'grading and discussion' thread. I'm grading and discussing.
     
  20. Hartzilla2007

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    And to do that you need the precise position of the Narada and the ship to arrive at the percise time the Narada exits which would be pretty hard to get EXACTLY right, and it would have to be exactly or it wouldn't work.

    Or he could have made peace with the fact that THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL HE COULD PULL IT OFF, and that trying could cause MORE DAMAGE to the timeline instead of fixing it.