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Not everyone who likes the alternate timeline idea hates the show. Though that is probably true for people who want Discovery to be in a alternate timeline. I think people forget that alternate timelines can be cool and fun. Not just something to dump shows and movies into you don't like.
It is enough for me that the writers and showrunners have said, in so many words, that DSC and SNW are explicitly in the Prime continuity. It is also enough for me that the Abramsverse movies are just as explicitly in an alternate timeline, and even provide backstory for that alternate timeline. I would say that @Christopher (who has wisely avoided saying anything in the "SNW Alternate Universe" thread at all) said it best when he said (in a thread about SNW in the TrekLit section):
The production design in two different presentations of Hamlet or Our Town won't agree. This is theater. Continuity is a function of story and character, not set or costume design.

I mean, heck, "Those Old Scientists" didn't bother to explain why Boimler is so much taller in live action, or why the Cerritos uniforms are so much darker red in live action. It's all just artistic interpretations.
One of my three favorite musicals is Sondheim's Merrily We Roll Along (the other two being Edwards & Stone's 1776 and Schwartz & Hirson's Pippin). I've seen Merrily with cast ethnicities all over the place. I've seen productions that treat the entire show as taking place inside Frank's head, and I've seen productions that treat the whole reverse chronology as simply having the audience magically enabled to backtrack through every wrong decision that doomed the friendship of Frank, Charley, and Mary. While I prefer the latter to the former, they're both valid interpretations. With Pippin, since the Leading Player (Pippin's nemisis, for those who haven't seen it) has no defined ethnicity or gender, I've seen it with a white man in the role (my high school's production, circa 1980), a white woman (a community theatre production in Sacramento), and a black man (Ben Vereen, in the Broadway production, of which I have a licensed proshot videocassette). I quite literally have no preference between the three, and I like the way this diversity brings different interpretations to the character.

And in terms of continuity, I would say that SNW 3x04, "A Space Adventure Hour," the "Rec Room" in TAS 2x03, "The Practical Joker," Diane Duane's rec dec scenes in her novels, and the fully realized holodecks and holosuites of TNG, DS9, VOY, and LD, form a perfectly reasonable technology development arc.
 
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It is enough for me that the writers and showrunners have said, in so many words, that DSC and SNW are explicitly in the Prime continuity.

What happens if the next showrunners come in and explicitly say it doesn’t count?

It is up to me to decide how something fits together for me. I am able to watch and interpret things on my own.
 
And that is one way to look at it. Though that means it is overwriting what came before.
I don't know if I treat it as over writing but as these events occured in one way and then I er time it got changed. It's a bit of Doctor Who logic to it.


But, then, I don't think it's that important and if I'm thinking about temporal mechanics while watching a show the show has failed.
 
And that is one way to look at it. Though that means it is overwriting what came before.
Oh please. There hadn't been a single Star Trek production era where Trek hasn't overwritten itself multiple times in the same run.:shrug:

That's as much an aspect of the entire Star Trek franchise as anything else.

In my younger years I clutched those continuity pearls a bit closer; but after what?

Nine Live action Trek series...

Three Trek animated series and a cluster of live action 'Short Treks' and short animated stuff, PLUS:

Nne Feature Films in one Universe
And
Three in another...

Yeah, I don't clutch those continuity pearls so much anymore.:shrug:

If the current production staff say all the Kurtzman era Live action series is in the Prime Universe with TOS, TNG et al. then that's good enough for me.
 
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