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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x08 – “The Life of the Stars”

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Earth. United Earth and "the Service." The Federation and Starfleet. All in the first eighteen produced episodes.
 
If so, when do they take actual classes?
The writers are choosing what to show though. I made this point on another board, but just because a show is teen drama doesn't mean they necessarily ignore the thing they do.
Are they ignoring it, though? They’ve actually shown us (or just mentioned) a number of classes the cadets are taking. I’m sure I’ve missed a couple, but here’s the ones I’ve written down …

“Beta Test”
Xenobiology (with the Doctor)
Xenoarcheology (with Tinn Valaak)
Combat Training (with Lura Thok)
Quantum Physics (with Jett Reno)
Stellar Cartography (mentioned by SAM)
Military Strategies (mentioned by Caleb)

“Vitus Reflux”
Gym class / Cardio and sprints (with Lura Thok)
Temporal Mechanics (with Jett Reno)
Botany (here with Nahla Ake)
Xenolinguistics (mentionied in dialog)

“Series Acclimation Mil”
Some sort of music class (with an unnamed instructor)
Advanced seminar “Confronting the Unexplainable” (with Illa Dax)

“The Life of the Stars”
Combat simulations (with Jett Reno)
 
^ Ah yes, the scientific approach, where you don't learn about stuff that’s banned. :p

Seriously though, I suppose that class is mainly about the various (naturally occuring) temporal phenomena the average Starfleet officer will encounter during their career. Can’t very well ban those, I guess. ;)
 
^ Ah yes, the scientific approach, where you don't learn about stuff that’s banned. :p

Seriously though, I suppose that class is mainly about the various temporal phenomena the average Starfleet officer will encounter during their career. Can’t very well ban those, I guess. ;)
It's like criminal investigators learning about the psychology of crime. The goal isn't for them to commit crimes, but solve/prevent them.
Time Travel is so easy to do in Star Trek that anyone with a Warp Drive and sufficiently powerful computational device can do it.

The only way the current timeline can exists at all given the billions of beings who would want to undo the Burn, requires either a perfect galaxy wide defense against temporal alteration, or a complete banning of any knowledge about time travel.
 
The writers on some of the new shows seem to use that calculator or one of the many copies.

Except lower decks, they had their own way of doing stardates. 1000 dates did not equal 1 year like in the TNG system apparently did.

The science advisor for all the shows, Dr. Erin MacDonald created a new formula, but hasn’t publicly released it.

Unlike TOS, the TNG star dates were not entirely random they had a IRL, meaning the second digit represented the TV season, and most (not all) consistently advanced the numbers. Now obviously that’s not the case for DS9, VOY and the TNG movies.
Actually, DS9, VOY and the TNG movies did follow the stardates from TNG in the same way.

TNG season 1 - stardate 41000 to 41999.
TNG season 2 - stardate 42000 to 42999.
And so on.

Since DS9 season 1 was concurrent to TNG season 6, it ran the stardate in the 46000s. DS9 season, stardate 47000s since it was concurrent with TNG season 7.

DS9 season 3, VOY season 1, GENERATIONS- stardate 48000 to 48999.

And so on.

FIRST CONTACT was during DS9 season 5.

And so on.


With the exception of TNG season 1, the stardates within the same season of a series corresponded to the order of production of those episodes. (For the most part... there were a few stragglers, but few and far between.)
 
Time Travel is so easy to do in Star Trek that anyone with a Warp Drive and sufficiently powerful computational device can do it.

The only way the current timeline can exists at all given the billions of beings who would want to undo the Burn, requires either a perfect galaxy wide defense against temporal alteration, or a complete banning of any knowledge about time travel.
Given that most galactic powers had mastered time travel and fought in a war with weaponised time travel there are undoubtedly many defences against it to prevent it and temporal sensors so that incursions can be detected before the changes ripple forward.

Wanting to undo the Burn may be a noble goal but time travel can have unforseen consequences. Same reason Flash and Superman don't just undo every single bad thing that happens, tragedies are a natural part of life.
 
Learning a variety of subjects makes you well-rounded.

Did the episode mention Jeffrey at all? Though "Kenneth"'s daughter may have died, he still had a wife and son. Unless he played the program through their lives to the end with no resets and they've since "died" too.

B'Elanna jimmied the Program so that Belle had to die, and there were no take backs, to teach the Doctor a lesson.

We are led to Believe that he never went back because it would have been too "painful" to remember Belle in her element, although I have a much better reason to stay out of that Program: B'Elanna is an obnoxious know it all psychopath. If the Doctor had returned, the son and wife would have also died horribly and betrayed him, or hurt him, because the point of that holonovel is to trick the (very young) Doctor into being less of a smug asshole.
 
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TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT have all been confirmed as having writers bibles.

So your statement is incorrect.
None of which were treated as unchangeable. As with Pirate Code, they were more of a guideline. The bibles were things that listed the characters, the setting, the terminology and a few dos and don'ts. It didn't tell the writers how phasers worked and warp theory. That tech the tech stuff was probably worked out on a script to script basis. And when needed brought back in or ignored.
 
B'Elanna jimmied the Program so that Belle had to die …
This gets often repeated, but that’s actually not how it’s presented in “Real Life”: B’Elanna didn’t change the Doctor’s program so his holographic daughter would die. She said she would “tweak it to bring it closer to real life”, which the Doctor elaborates as her “simply adding some randomized behavioral algorithms to the program […]. Events will simply unfold as a natural evolutions of probabilities within the program. But there’s no way to predict what those might be.”
 
Conversation might have gotten past this, but thinking about Jammer's review (which was much more negative than I would've given, even though I had many of the same criticisms) is in these sorts of "emotional" episodes, suspension of disbelief is very important.

It's a very, very thin line between an emotionally moving episode and an episode you think is trying to emotionally manipulate you. Once the "seams" start showing, it can all fall apart quickly.
 
This gets often repeated, but that’s actually not how it’s presented in “Real Life”: B’Elanna didn’t change the Doctor’s program so his holographic daughter would die. She said she would “tweak it to bring it closer to real life”, which the Doctor elaborates as her “simply adding some randomized behavioral algorithms to the program […]. Events will simply unfold as a natural evolutions of probabilities within the program. But there’s no way to predict what those might be.”

When you're talking about how a Terrorist with anger issues and a suicide kick ruins a bell curve for measuring the expected, do you have any idea what happens every time some smart-ass gives your typical Klingon a typewriter?
 
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