I really enjoyed the beginning and liked the hunt, thought it was pretty fun. But everytime I think back to borg part was cringe.
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Because those people were high on nostalgia.
But if you do any sort critical thinking on the plot, it makes absolutely no sense, threads that go nowhere and is full of character assassination.
More popular does not equal better.
Every other season of the Kurtzman era Trek was better written than Picard Season 3.
Only thing worse was the Section 31 movie.
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Yeah, I enjoyed season 3, but I recognized it for what it was -- a reunion tour and a victory lap. Well deserved for all involved, but hardly anything groundbreaking.
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Every Kurtzman era season better than PICARD season 3?
That is a contender for second best joke of 2026.
Does PICARD season 3 have its issues and plot holes? Certainly. (Having the Borg YET AGAIN hurts it.) But it's the only live action arc driven season of the Kurtzman era (these seasons being the five DISCO and three PICARD ones) that actually set out exactly what it was designed to do. Plus, the middle didn't drag as hard as every DISCO season did. (Or PICARD seasons 1 and 2.)
It's definitely better than the other PICARD two seasons, and most certainly better than all five of the DISCO ones. (Though with DISCO, that is an admittedly extremely low bar to clear.)
Yeah, there are worse seasons than Picard season 3, but I would argue that storylines definitely do drag. How many times do we hear that Frontier Day is “hours away? Jack’s Mystery Box definitely drags. Generally, not much really happens in episode 6 -8 for the larger story arc. The season really could have been a tight 6 episode season and likely a lot of its issues would be lessened. Episode 6 is frustrating because so much but so little actually happens in the episode.
Honestly, I would have rather that they had the "Conspiracy" bugs be the "threat from within Starfleet" rather than Changelings. And no Borg.
Yes.
How about changelings pretending to be Conspiracy bugs?
And I'd add the mystery of Jack went on for too long.
No. Definitely not. Among the many reasons, I can take the officers in PICARD season 3 far more seriously as professional than DISCO in all five seasons, for example.
Shaw was probably the biggest unprofessional officer in STARFLEET.
He told Picard and Riker 'no' to an undesignated mission they were attempting, secretly, to perform. A mission that was potentially very dangerous for his crew. (And ultimately was proven dangerous.)
He relieved multiple bridge officers to get rest after being on duty for a very lengthy time once things settled down. This allowed his officers to be at their best instead of exhausted while under attack by Vadic. (This is something so exceedingly rare to see in the franchise, and should have been seen more often.)
He relieved Seven of duty for going against his direct orders to not go where Picard and Riker wanted.
He transferred command over to the next command level officer once he saw he was physically unfit to stay on the bridge.
The only unprofessional stuff Shaw showed was how he acted with Seven. That I don't agree with. But considering his evaluation of her we saw at the end of the season, it seems more like his way of testing her character. Similar to how Picard and Worf were testing Sito's character in "Lower Decks".
And there were more officers in the season than just Shaw. So, yes, I stand by my statement that I can take these officers seriously as professionals.
I didn't say we couldn't take them seriously. But his demeanor was unprofessional. Yes, he was well within his rights to tell Picard no. He was not within his rights to belittle another officer or their experience.
Are you referring to the dinner scene? Because that was off duty and Picard and Riker were being arrogant with Shaw.
That and his attitude towards Seven. He doesn't do anything that inspires leadership. He sneers at everything sadly.
And he could have gone over their head to Fleet Admiral Shelby or Admiral Janeway and he didn't - probably because he knew that anyone senior to him would back Picard and Riker up. It was a power-trip.
He chewed Seven out in public for following the orders of an officer senior to them, and refused to accept her preferred name on multiple occasions.
Except Geordi.
I already mentioned I didn't agree with how he acted toward Seven. But his evaluation at the end implies a possible reason why he was that way.
Shaw was looking out for the safety of his crew, which Picard and Riker were not when they were trying to essentially hijack his ship. Shaw knew if this was a sanctioned mission, that entire scene wouldn't have been necessary. Picard and Riker, arrogantly, thought they could throw their weight around and that he'd just hand over the ship.
And I already agreed that I didn't like him not calling her Seven when she preferred it. And Seven was rightfully called out because Seven wasn't ordered by Picard and Riker... she did it on her own. Which was also against Shaw's orders about not letting them go where they wanted.
And in doing so, Seven DID put the ship in actual danger and the ship did get damaged hard and many of the crew were wounded. Including Shaw himself.
I think we tend to give Picard, Riker, Seven, and others a pass for disobeying orders and going off mission because we followed them for years and know them and like them.
But that stuff isn't supposed to fly in a chain of command structure. It's why Ro was put in prison before we met her. It's why Tom Paris got demoted. It's why Kirk got demoted from Admiral.
Nope..all of them should be in prison, Shaw included.
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