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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x08 - "Four-And-A-Half Vulcans"
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Rewatch "The Mark of Gideon." The size of the Enterprise is mentioned nowhere in the episode. Neither the phrase "288 meters" nor "947 feet" with regard to the size of the Enterprise is uttered by anyone in an episode of TOS.
The only measurement we have given in dialogue for a Starfleet vessel in TOS is the size of a shuttlecraft in "The Galileo Seven" - "a twenty-four foot shuttlecraft" (also note the use of Imperial units, not metric).
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Not legible.
And even if it was, that diagram was made for the Connie when it only had a single deck saucer. So it's not even accurate for the TOS design.
You're telling me there's a dedicated closeup of a diagram of the Enterprise with a legible scale explicitly saying the Enterprise is "288 meters" long in "The Mark of Gideon?" Are you sure? Timestamp, please.
In TNG's "The Next Phase," Geordi's death certificate gives his mother's name as Alvera K. LaForge. It's onscreen. When "Interface" airs, Geordi's mother's name is Silva. In your estimation, what is Geordi's mother's real name? Both are on screen. Alvera came first. Which is her real name, and which is the canon-busting continuity error?
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^^Similarly, in DS9 S6 Admiral Ross has his Starfleet Academy diploma in his office which lists his first name as Cliff. S7 has his first name established in dialogue as William.
And let's not even get started on James R Kirk or Trelane saying it's the 28th century.
And let's not even get started on James R Kirk or Trelane saying it's the 28th century.
And according to the DS9 Companion (via M-A), the first time his first name is said on screen, it was written as a joke:
Though I'm not sure what the joke is, was Odo just making up a name for him?
Well... It wasn't quite as bad as I thought it'd be.
I don't know if we needed the humorous subplot with Number One and Doug (much as I love Patton Oswalt) in an episode that was already humorous. And Pike's Vanilla Ice / Kid N Play hair was beyond ridiculous. Overall, I'd say that Jess Bush and Celia Rose Gooding did the best jobs with playing Vulcans. I'm also rather sick of the Pelia character, as all they ever give to Carol Kane is unfunny comic relief stuff. The one bit I liked without reservation was the Kirk/Scotty subplot.
I wouldn't say I liked it, but it didn't make me cringe as much as "A Space Adventure Hour," so that's something.
I don't know if we needed the humorous subplot with Number One and Doug (much as I love Patton Oswalt) in an episode that was already humorous. And Pike's Vanilla Ice / Kid N Play hair was beyond ridiculous. Overall, I'd say that Jess Bush and Celia Rose Gooding did the best jobs with playing Vulcans. I'm also rather sick of the Pelia character, as all they ever give to Carol Kane is unfunny comic relief stuff. The one bit I liked without reservation was the Kirk/Scotty subplot.
I wouldn't say I liked it, but it didn't make me cringe as much as "A Space Adventure Hour," so that's something.
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It could have been it's own episode: 45 minutes of Una getting swept off her feet by a particularly odd Vulcan.
Sorry. Its in the Enterprise incident. A clearly marked scale is right next to the diagram .
Again. James R. Kirk.
And no, Kirk didn't legally change his middle name between 2265 and 2266 and Gary Mitchell wasn't forgetting his best friend's middle name after 15 years of knowing him, not with deity-like ESP superpowers.
And no, Kirk didn't legally change his middle name between 2265 and 2266 and Gary Mitchell wasn't forgetting his best friend's middle name after 15 years of knowing him, not with deity-like ESP superpowers.
Recasts don't fall into the calculation of what's canon on-screen since often they are unavoidable. However, SNW could have used TOS sets if they wanted to (as seen in TNG and Enterprise). Thus, a refit between SNW and TOS is canon.
It's canon that Gary put R on the tombstone. We can't just pretend it says T because it obviously doesn't on-screen. Why Gary put R there is something only he knows.
Can you make out any of the measurement units in said scale?
I couldn't until I saw the black-and-white graphic printed in a book.
Of course, it can be changed, but should one be naive to the confusion or dissatisfaction the change might cause?
Exactly. There are simple aspects of being a stage production that comes with the territory. It doesn't require "alternate continuity/continuity violation" to cope with it. It's set dressing.
Warp drive was a post-S.S. Columbia crash invention until it wasn't. Zefram Cochrane was now the inventor of warp drive and it happened more than 150 years before TOS. Yet both episodes coexist in the same continuity and timeline. Neither episode suffers, and one can head canon why warp drive got so much faster between the crash and Pike and his crew arriving.
The Constitution-class warp engines are a really good reason for ships suddenly becoming so much faster!
The Constitution-class warp engines are a really good reason for ships suddenly becoming so much faster!
I'd vote for that subplot not existing at all, not spinning it off into its own episode.
How about the implication that warp drive was actually time travel ("we've broken the time barrier!"), which was quietly done away with by Where No Man Has Gone Before.
R is canon. T is canon. No need to pretend anything. T becomes what it is.
Gary is a fictional character, he wont "know" something until a writer gives him something to know. Maybe Season Five address that. Maybe it wont.
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