That said, Christina Chong absolutely rocks.
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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x04 - "A Space Adventure Hour"
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Let’s hire people who don’t like Star Trek to make Star Trek for people who don’t like Star Trek.
"For as someone who doesn’t like Star Trek it’s all shit but they gobble it up anyway and we can appeal to new markets" was the operative logic.
A decade of NuTrek but the only thing most memorable was the ENT-D flying out of spacedock again.
Grim.
Certainly, they were scripted faux bloopers, similar to the bloopers at the end of the "Toy Story" movies. And they were hilarious and predictable and even more hilarious.
Because he's Spock.Initial reaction was an 8 - which i voted on, but i'm thinking more like a 7 or a 6 now after digesting it.
I liked the attempted "Riker maneuver" at the end
Why does Spock need to be everyone's love interest?!
That’s a little much — she’s not “shagging her way” through anybody; she’s had romantic sparks develop that she didn’t originally expect or plan, with exactly two people.
For the record: Them! is a good, smart film that still holds up today. That’s very much not the sort of dialogue that appears in it.
I understood that reference.
Not the absolute best the SNW has to offer, but I ended up liking it a lot more than I thought I would while I was trying to get through the first scene. The only part I actively disliked was the Shatner parts. I don't like Shatner. Shatner is a lot of the reason I don't like TOS.
So, yeah. I gave it a 7.
Also, Spock and La'an have a ton of chemistry. I'm on board with this ship.
So, yeah. I gave it a 7.
Also, Spock and La'an have a ton of chemistry. I'm on board with this ship.
The Paul Wesley "Riker Maneuver" bit was THE highlight of the entire episode. A+++ moment, and one for the ages. Brilliant piece of meta.
OR it's a bit of self-indulgent improv by a director who used to play the character in question. OR, if it wasn't improvised, it speaks to a kind of writing that is completely aimed at providing fan service, but a kind that isn't based in aspects of the legacy shows that would actually provide a satisfying callback (or even worldbuilding), but rather on niche fan discourse and online memes.
I don't want to overstate it - maybe I already have - but it seems we're an inch away from SNW doing an episode where they travel to a planet where their adventures on the Enterprise are a TV show and there are conventions in their honor and they go to one and sign autographs. This episode will be filmed at a major convention, thousands of fans will be extras in it, some of them will even be named and immortalized as characters on Memory Alpha. The lucky ones will have an action figure made of them and a character in Star Trek Timelines. The Star Trek fans that appeared as Star Trek fans on Star Trek will become celebrities within Star Trek fandom and in turn be invited to appear at Star Trek conventions worldwide. Now THAT would be 'meta'!
And guess what? Having just written that down, I am now absolutely SURE that 1. I have given some SNW writer who may be lurking here an idea, or 2. that this precise episode has already been filmed for Season 4. It'll probably air two weeks after the Muppets one. This is all fun in a way, but do we want Star Trek, or do we want the Futurama Star Trek parody?
Una even starts to call it the Recreation Room. Nice nod. So even though it's a death trap it will be a regular part of the ship in, what are we at now? Five years?
But frankly it was muchly down hill from there.
PROS:
- Pike looked like Isaac Asimov and drank like Roddenberry. Una as Lucy (kinda).
- They curved the tops E's in The Last Frontier but not anywhere else in the credits. Nerds.
- I hate putting Spock in another relationship but Spock and La'an dancing is still charming.
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The resolution of the mystery was OK but Peck's performance was particularly effective. He's gotten very good at delineating various degrees of Spock.
- Spock "I have never been happy" now has his third love interest in three seasons. And La'an has now had romantic entanglements with Kirk AND Spock.
- A gorram holodeck episode.
- Una gets another great "being the leader and mentor" scene, this time with Scotty. And I'm happy for the scene with Una. But I miss when Pike got to do these scenes. Where is my captain?
- I have come to adore Paul Wesley's Kirk. But I can't say that the Shatner impression (or the other character's reaction to it) came from a place of love and respect. Is there room to make fun of Shatner? Surely. You can even say he wasn't any good (except he was). Does it have to be on actual Star Trek? Although I did think the "behind the scenes" at the end was more fun to watch than the episode.
As an unabashed SNW junkie, I hope it gets better. (This is my first bad review of a SNW episode.)
No, for a whole lot of reasons.
-If she had killed Khan, she'd be preventing her own existence, as well as that or her family's.
-She'd be preventing her own timeline from ever existing, meaning the version of Spock she fell in love with would never exist.
-I doubt La'an is ever going to feel guilty over not killing a child, even knowing that child grows up to become a genocidal monster.
“Chong”. It’s right there in the credits.
And "i" can easily be typed instead of "o" since they are roght next to each other in the keyboard.
I wathced this episode in about four goes, it was hard going.
My main thought is: sadness.
Very sad.
You have the ENTIRE UNIVERSE to explore. To visit... strange new worlds one might say. Races, stories to be told... sci-fi gives the writers AMPLE opportunity to go anywhere.
And they create this drivel.
The writers are afraid. They are afraid to tell stories these days. They run to the holodeck of all things to hide, and to abdicate their responsiblity as writers.
I don't mind fun episodes, and they were a counterbalance in long seasons of 26 episodes. But we just had a comedy episode two episodes ago. We don't need more escapism.
With such a short season and precious hours to tell stories that inspire, escapism is not what I want.
The fucking holodeck man. Of all the options...
My main thought is: sadness.
Very sad.
You have the ENTIRE UNIVERSE to explore. To visit... strange new worlds one might say. Races, stories to be told... sci-fi gives the writers AMPLE opportunity to go anywhere.
And they create this drivel.
The writers are afraid. They are afraid to tell stories these days. They run to the holodeck of all things to hide, and to abdicate their responsiblity as writers.
I don't mind fun episodes, and they were a counterbalance in long seasons of 26 episodes. But we just had a comedy episode two episodes ago. We don't need more escapism.
With such a short season and precious hours to tell stories that inspire, escapism is not what I want.
The fucking holodeck man. Of all the options...
It seems to just be the way long-running IPs work nowadays - part of its purpose is to try and evoke nostalgia and emotion in fans by endlessly folding inward on itself, littered with callbacks and references. We're trapped in the ghost of a 60-year-old show!
I get the feeling they also start each script not by thinking "what will the plot be this week", but rather "what emotional truth can we reveal about the characters", and then the plot is mostly a secondary concern to be built around that central theme using random bits and pieces from Star Trek "lore", which is why the plots this season just sort of meander and then fizzle.
I feel like there's a comic book story along these lines. Maybe written by Peter David at one point. @Therin of Andor , you would know. Does this ring any bells? The crew visiting a Star Trek convention planet?
I may be thinking of a She-Hulk issue, come to think of it. Or maybe Dreadstar.
Anyway.
They could also go the "Visit to a Weird Planet"/"Visit to a Weird Planet Revisited" route -- due to a transporter accident, the characters swap places with the actors. The actors have to defuse a situation with the Klingons, the characters have to deal with being on 21st-century Earth on soundstages.
I think ship rocking one was a genuine blooper. Something about Jess Bush’s reaction felt genuine not staged
But yeah the rest were either improv or scripted.
In order to use the spore drive they either need to enslave a being or genetically enhance a crew member as a navigator and violate Federation law.
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