Mistyped. Not every autocorrect requires a lynching! Now corrected.“Chong”. It’s right there in the credits.
Mistyped. Not every autocorrect requires a lynching! Now corrected.“Chong”. It’s right there in the credits.
Ok, but are we going to apply the same standards to a show in the franchise that we would to a late night comedy sketch show? Galaxy Quest, Black Mirror, and Orville all took on the Shatner mythos or the heroic image of the captain, but didn't do it so directly. I'm not sure Shatner needed to be mocked, his mannerisms in particular, by a franchise he helped make .There's a lot to make fun of in his performance, but I'd rather see that come from writers who appreciate his performance to begin with, rather than the usual "ha ha ha he talks weird" stuff that's been done to death. This felt like it went into the latter - I think Wesley, to his credit, was trying to give the performance a little bit of nuance and not play it as an outright lazy "SPEA-king LIKE.... THIS with STRANGE enunci-ATION" thing that hack impersonators have done for decades, but the writing definitely didn't seem to share that approach.
Yes, I am., but are we going to apply the same standards to a show in the franchise that we would to a late night comedy sketch show?
So Seth McFarland can outright do Shatner on the Orville?Yes, I am.
Mileage will vary but Trek doesn't get a special standard from me because Trek.
Why not? It's been comedy fodder for decades.So Seth McFarland can outright do Shatner on the Orville?
Go for it. His character couldn't get much worse.So Seth McFarland can outright do Shatner on the Orville?
Yeah, it's not a plot I have any interest in, I was just trying to cushion my criticism in case people thought I was aggrieved at the very idea of Shatner's acting being joked about.I'm not sure Shatner needed to be mocked, his mannerisms in particular, by a franchise he helped make .
Ok, but are we going to apply the same standards to a show in the franchise that we would to a late night comedy sketch show? Galaxy Quest, Black Mirror, and Orville all took on the Shatner mythos or the heroic image of the captain, but didn't do it so directly. I'm not sure Shatner needed to be mocked, his mannerisms in particular, by a franchise he helped make .
I agree. They outright mocked shatner and TOS. Now they are out to remake to tos. They dont like the way the show looked, was written or acted. Insulting the people who started this
the ship also needs to be refit to use the drive. Voyager wouldn't be able to replicate it and use it right away.In order to use the spore drive they either need to enslave a being or genetically enhance a crew member as a navigator and violate Federation law.
Amazing, everything you said is completely wrong.I agree. They outright mocked shatner and TOS. Now they are out to remake to tos. They dont like the way the show looked, was written or acted. Insulting the people who started this
the ship also needs to be refit to use the drive. Voyager wouldn't be able to replicate it and use it right away.
Amazing, everything you said is completely wrong.
It's an opinion, one that most people here disagree with based on the posts and poll numbers.Not in my opinon. Its obvious.
They're not ruining it, or replacing it.They are ruining the legacy of tos by trying to replace it.
Mistyped. Not every autocorrect requires a lynching! Now corrected.
It's an opinion, one that most people here disagree with based on the posts and poll numbers.
They're not ruining it, or replacing it.
In what might maybe my fastest turnaround in terms of re-evaluations:I am somewhat split on this episode - which is funny, because the whole thread seems to be.
The "bad" first:
It was the most by-the-numbers standard holodeck malfunction episode we have seen on Star Trek since like the 90s.
I'm already used to SNW being something of a "best of" of previous Trek plots. But this one added literally nothing new or exciting to the holodeck malfunction plotline.
I also didn't like the holodeck plot itself. The murder mystery too on the nose, the twist the bare minimum for a mystery plot. The Trek parody show itself was horrendous.
Also didn't like the non-holodeck plotline - Scotty not being able to reach anyone was really forced.
So what did I do like?
The fucking characters. This one was clearly an actors dream episode. And they nailed it. Anson Mount (again) playing against type was the absolute highlight. I hated Wesley's "Captain" (als always) - but he nailed it as the ashole show star. Just everyone bringing their absolute A-game.
And goddamn, that alone made the episode as a whole not just watchable, but up a goddamn delight!
Not sure what to think about that ending - expect for "goddamn Peck getting some on this show!"
On a whole, I think SNW might be turning a little bit too "meta" overall.
What does Section 31 have to do with SNW or TOS?Most people disagree with? Section 31 anyone.
So...one entry out of how many?Most people disagree with? Section 31 anyone.
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