Spoilers The Acolyte

[Yistaan]

I anticipate there will be an animated ‘Here’s what you would have gotten if it hadn’t been for the haters’ Tales of the Jedi mini-season devoted purely to speed-running through whatever they had in mind for the rest of the series. As a face-saving gesture, if nothing else.

Tales of the Sith--

Darth Qimir: Ok, now that you've satisfied your hormones, it's time to get to work. If we want to take over the galaxy we need to (checks datapad) amass more money, run for political office, go through multiple elections to become a Senator, then Chancellor and then--

Osha: Wait what? What bantha poodoo is this? The dark side isn't all about ****ing? We have to run for endless elections and fundraisers?

Darth Qimir: Well uh--

Osha: I'm out of here, I can find more guys for free affairs on Ryloth or Zeltros without having to try to take over the galaxy.

Darth Qimir: . And I didn't even get to the part where we have to secretly start and fund an insurgency and start a galaxy wide war and blackmail the Jedi into leading the military as generals.

 

[Crewman6]

Kind of surprised they were thinking of a second season for Acolyte since it felt like a one and done.

Fortunately, the season did come to a natural conclusion. There are still ongoing story threads which could easily have been continued. But it doesn't feel like something left unresolved.

 

[Set Harth]

Great decision, easily the worst show of the SW tv shows.

Skeleton Crew be like "hold my juice box"

 

[137th Gebirg]

Qmir, more prominent than Shang-Chi? You must be eating too many death sticks.

I want to go home and rethink my life...

 

[Set Harth]

Basically Disney's stance is they're all equally canon.

Meet the new boss. It's the same as the old boss.

There's always a hierarchy even when they don't say there's a hierarchy. Books exist at a whipping-boy level of canon that kind of exists to be potentially violated. Various things in books released under the current regime have already been contradicted/overwritten by cartoons and live action productions.

 

[Yistaan]

Various things in books released under the current regime have already been contradicted/overwritten by cartoons and live action productions.

The hilarious part about this is the most prominent recent example, Asajj Ventress' still unexplained resurrection in Bad Batch (when she was confirmed dead in the book Dark Disciple for MONTHS), was Dave Filoni contradicting himself (he authorized the book where Ventress dies based on his unfilmed TCW story, then greenlit her reappearance in Bad Batch because he wanted to use her again. Maybe he shouldn't have killed her to begin with)

That being said, some written works are necessary to understand the filmed ones (How Maul escapes from Palpatine to lead Mandalore again by TCW S7 is only explained in Son of Dathomir comic)

 

[Set Harth]

(when she was confirmed dead in the book Dark Disciple for MONTHS)

Wouldn't it be years, or do I misunderstand your meaning?

 

[fireproof78]

That being said, some written works are necessary to understand the filmed ones

And that's where you lost me. I should not need a book to understand a film.

I mean maybe you didn't see the notice 10 years ago, but only Legends had a hierarchy of screen, then print, etc. (and even that wasn't consistent, just ask 2003 Clone Wars, Ewoks/Droids shows, and the Ewok movies which were placed on a lower tier than Filoni's Clone Wars). Disney's current stance per https://www.starwars.com/news/the-legendary-star-wars-expanded-universe-turns-a-new-page is

Now, with an exciting future filled with new cinematic installments of Star Wars, all aspects of Star Wars storytelling moving forward will be connected. Under Lucasfilm President Kathleen Kennedy's direction, the company for the first time ever has formed a story group to oversee and coordinate all Star Wars creative development.

"We have an unprecedented slate of new Star Wars entertainment on the horizon," said Kennedy. "We're set to bring Star Wars back to the big screen, and continue the adventure through games, books, comics, and new formats that are just emerging. This future of interconnected storytelling will allow fans to explore this galaxy in deeper ways than ever before."

Basically Disney's stance is they're all equally canon.

Good for Disney. I was not aware I had to abide by their rules. Nor was I aware of whatever hierarchy was supposedly ruined by the Acolyte given that infighting and backstabbing is common for the Sith, with Dooku killing Ventress (or trying), Sidious attacking Maul, etc.

 

[Yistaan]

Wouldn't it be years, or do I misunderstand your meaning?

Well assuming she was resurrected immediately after the novel ended, her body was held in the Jedi Temple for months in the book itself.

 

[Set Harth]

oh, i thought you meant out-of-universe.

 

[Yistaan]

If the Acolyte had early notice of cancelation then they could've hastily written a jarring and hamfisted ending just like Star Trek Discovery did!

Elderly Osha: Aww Qimir, our adopted son Sheev has just been admitted into Naboo's political studies program!

Elderly Qimir: He's all grown up and ready to take over the galaxy.

Osha: Uh oh, Darth Plagueis is calling us! He says we're to take the starship Exile to Exegol and wait in place for 100 years.

Qimir: Right we need to clean up the Rule of Two business before Sheev becomes a Senator. (turns and winks at the camera)

Osha: Wait, how are we still alive? Or expecting to still be alive for another 100 years?

Qimir: Darth Plagueis can keep the ones he cares about from dying (winks at the camera again)

Osha: Qimir... it always was just a code name wasn't it?

Qimir: Imri Cantaros, of the Starlight Beacon, and other places.

 

[fireproof78]

Anyone thinking Qimir was his real name probably think Plagueis was his birth name.

 

[Relayer1]

we're losing the portrayal of a masculine, dateable, Asian man in our media even if the character was a villain.

Bit of a simplification there.

Antagonist ? Sure.

Out and out villain ? Less so.

 

[JD]

What's the excuse for all the shows I did watch live run for 99% of my life that got cancelled as I watched them, especially on Netflix.

Pretty sure all the whiny gatekeeping arses that cry when they see a diverse cast on screen might be more of a problem than me who actually watched the show.

But if you enjoyed the show when you were watching it, shouldn't that be enough? And if you refuse to watch a show when it's first starting out of fear it'll get cancelled early, then all you're doing is adding to it's chances of getting cancelled early. If you want it to make sure if continues then you need to watch it, and encourage other people to watch it, and if you like it enough maybe even watch it multiple times.

I feel a need to point out that, despite the widespread reporting on this and the general credibility of the outlets doing so, it's not actually official until/unless Lucasfilm makes an announcement about it directly, which they haven't done.

This came from Deadline, which is one of the most legitimate and trustworthy sources of entertainment news, so if they say it's true, it's probably is. It's not quite as trustworthy, but IGN also said that they contacted their sources and they also confirmed it. So at this point I'd say it's at least a 90% - 95% chance it's true. Or at least was true at the time that Deadline and IGN heard from their insiders.

The hilarious part about this is the most prominent recent example, Asajj Ventress' still unexplained resurrection in Bad Batch (when she was confirmed dead in the book Dark Disciple for MONTHS), was Dave Filoni contradicting himself (he authorized the book where Ventress dies based on his unfilmed TCW story, then greenlit her reappearance in Bad Batch because he wanted to use her again. Maybe he shouldn't have killed her to begin with)

When she first showed up on The Bad Batch, they implied that they did have an explanation in mind for how she's alive and that they'll address in a later appearance.

As for how I feel, I'm disappointed, I liked it and would have gladly watched more. I'm not totally heartbroken though, I didn't like it quite as much as the shows that are continuing, like Andor or Ahsoka.

 

[Jax]

But if you enjoyed the show when you were watching it, shouldn't that be enough? And if you refuse to watch a show when it's first starting out of fear it'll get cancelled early, then all you're doing is adding to it's chances of getting cancelled early.

I don't enjoy putting time into an unfinished story. I doubt me not choosing to watch something right off the bat is the reason stuff gets cancelled. Streaming TV was supposed to be different from Network TV and allow me to choose when I want to watch something. Waiting for the entire thing to drop before I watch is a valid choice for a streaming show especially when the storytelling is clearly designed for binge watching and NOT the weekly release model that is out of date!

if you want it to make sure if continues then you need to watch it, and encourage other people to watch it, and if you like it enough maybe even watch it multiple times

How many people do you think I know? Also I should watch something MULTIPLE times right after release because these execs treat streaming content rating numbers like it was a CBS show in the 2000's. Anything else I should do? maybe sacrifice a goat?

 

[Skywalker]

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[JD]

I don't enjoy putting time into an unfinished story. I doubt me not choosing to watch something right off the bat is the reason stuff gets cancelled. Streaming TV was supposed to be different from Network TV and allow me to choose when I want to watch something.

Yeah you can, but if you know that there's a specific window for when they're looking at the numbers to decide if a show is going to be renewed, then it would be best to watch it during that window if you want it to be renewed. And of course one person not watching something isn't going to impact it, but if enough people have your attitude then it will effect it.

Waiting for the entire thing to drop before I watch is a valid choice for a streaming show especially when the storytelling is clearly designed for binge watching and NOT the weekly release model that is out of date!

Sure, but then you might have been part of why it was cancelled.

How many people do you think I know? Also I should watch something MULTIPLE times right after release because these execs treat streaming content rating numbers like it was a CBS show in the 2000's. Anything else I should do? maybe sacrifice a goat?

I've seen people refer to watching something multiple times, so it's not totally unheard of.
Even if streaming doesn't work exactly like networks, people still need to watch the shows for the people in charge to want to make more seasons.

 

[fireproof78]

But if you enjoyed the show when you were watching it, shouldn't that be enough?

That's literally all you can do.

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I'm sure he'll appear in a comic or something later.

 

[Jax]

Yeah you can, but if you know that there's a specific window for when they're looking at the numbers to decide if a show is going to be renewed, then it would be best to watch it during that window if you want it to be renewed. And of course one person not watching something isn't going to impact it, but if enough people have your attitude then it will effect it.

Sure, but then you might have been part of why it was cancelled.

I've seen people refer to watching something multiple times, so it's not totally unheard of.
Even if streaming doesn't work exactly like networks, people still need to watch the shows for the people in charge to want to make more seasons.

I did not cancel Acolyte and I'm not given up all my free time to Disney/Netflix to watch something exactly when they want and multiple times in the era of streaming, especially when there is a stupid amount of content to keep up with. I watched the entire show less than a week after the last episode dropped. They sold us on the "It's not cable" marketing and they chose to break that promise.

If they want more constant ratings they should go back to dropping the whole show at once model.

 

[Set Harth]

Anything else I should do? maybe sacrifice a goat?

Not enough, you gotta sacrifice a GOAT.