Spoilers The Acolyte

[JD]

I did not cancel Acolyte and I'm not given up all my free time to Disney/Netflix to watch something exactly when they want and multiple times in the era of streaming, especially when there is a stupid amount of content to keep up with. I watched the entire show less than a week after the last episode dropped. They sold us on the "It's not cable" marketing and they chose to break that promise.

OK one week after the finale is a pretty reasonable amount to watch it, I thought you were talking about waiting years to watch a show, in order to wait and see if it gets multiple seasons.

If they want more constant ratings they should go back to dropping the whole show at once model.

I don't know if that would work, I think it would actually be the other way around, with people being more likely to watch a show quicker if they do a weekly release. With a weekly release, I could see people being more motivated to keep up with it and not get left behind when everyone around them is talking about it. I know that's the case with me, I find it lot easier to keep up with one episode a week, than a full season drop where everybody is watching a different number of episodes at a time.
And from a marketing perspective it makes more sense to me to do one episode at a time, since it's going to make sure everyone is at the same point, and it will keep it on everyone's radar a lot longer since it's more spread out.

 

[Set Harth]

There is a lot of fan assumption that was undone by this show, and their poor fan head canon. But, as was noted elsewhere, Palpatine never says who was his master; we assumed it so but it isn't out and out stated. So, what lineage is leading up to Palpatine is unknown.
Two, Qimir and Osha training together outside of Plaguis blessing is hardly new Sith behavior.

Nor was I aware of whatever hierarchy was supposedly ruined by the Acolyte given that infighting and backstabbing is common for the Sith, with Dooku killing Ventress (or trying), Sidious attacking Maul, etc.

The Acolyte didn't really contradict any hierarchy. Even with the Rule of Two there is sometimes a Ventress or a Starkiller. Plagueis may order Qimir to kill Osha at some point as a test of loyalty.
It was never said that Palpatine was Plagueis' first apprentice or that Plagueis was the first and only individual to develop the Create Life power. People just assumed these things. This is similar to how the prequels obliged us to interpret certain parts of the OT differently to our initial assumptions.

 

[Yistaan]

The Acolyte didn't really contradict any hierarchy. Even with the Rule of Two there is sometimes a Ventress or a Starkiller. Plagueis may order Qimir to kill Osha at some point as a test of loyalty.
It was never said that Palpatine was Plagueis' first apprentice or that Plagueis was the first and only individual to develop the Create Life power. People just assumed these things. This is similar to how the prequels obliged us to interpret certain parts of the OT differently to our initial assumptions.

It would be nice if the little paragraph you wrote were actually stated by anyone in the show (and even Palpatine ultimately ordered Dooku to take out Ventress, Palpatine took out Savage and Maul, etc.--basically all the Rule of Two violations you cite as precedent were literally addressed in the Clone Wars show itself, which isn't what happened here in the Acolyte). If Plagueis or Qimir said something along the lines to acknowledge the Rule of Two, then I'd agree, it's not a contradiction. As it is, with it NOT being addressed and now no continuation of the show, it is one.

 

[fireproof78]

The Acolyte didn't really contradict any hierarchy. Even with the Rule of Two there is sometimes a Ventress or a Starkiller. Plagueis may order Qimir to kill Osha at some point as a test of loyalty.
It was never said that Palpatine was Plagueis' first apprentice or that Plagueis was the first and only individual to develop the Create Life power. People just assumed these things. This is similar to how the prequels obliged us to interpret certain parts of the OT differently to our initial assumptions.

Exactly.

We don't have enough information to say:

We have assumption and hearsay.

 

[DigificWriter]

This came from Deadline, which is one of the most legitimate and trustworthy sources of entertainment news, so if they say it's true, it's probably is. It's not quite as trustworthy, but IGN also said that they contacted their sources and they also confirmed it. So at this point I'd say it's at least a 90% - 95% chance it's true. Or at least was true at the time that Deadline and IGN heard from their insiders.

I know. Comments from anonymous sources - even to a news outlet with the level of credibility that Deadline has - are not the same thing as an official announcement/confirmation from Lucasfilm directly, though, which is the thing we haven't yet gotten.

 

[Yistaan]

I know. Comments from anonymous sources - even to a news outlet with the level of credibility that Deadline has - are not the same thing as an official announcement/confirmation from Lucasfilm directly, though, which is the thing we haven't yet gotten.

LFL doesn't officially announce cancelations though. They didn't for Willow either

 

[JD]

I know. Comments from anonymous sources - even to a news outlet with the level of credibility that Deadline has - are not the same thing as an official announcement/confirmation from Lucasfilm directly, though, which is the thing we haven't yet gotten.

I never said it was, but whether it is or not doesn't really matter since we have one extremely trustworthy source, and another trustworthy source, who most likely have separate sources, hearing the same thing, it's pretty much guaranteed to be true.

 

[Set Harth]

It would be nice if the little paragraph you wrote were actually stated by anyone in the show

...that doesn't make any sense. Why would anything i wrote be spoken as dialogue in the show?

(and even Palpatine ultimately ordered Dooku to take out Ventress, Palpatine took out Savage and Maul, etc.

that's why i suggested Plagueis might order Qimir to take out Osha. Or Qimir and Osha could team up to try to take down Plagueis. Or both. We're not at the "ultimately" for this group yet.

If Plagueis or Qimir said something along the lines to acknowledge the Rule of Two, then I'd agree, it's not a contradiction. As it is, with it NOT being addressed and now no continuation of the show, it is one.

They don't need to say anything. Always three there are. Another way to put it is: the apprentice may seek an apprentice in turn. Sidious, Dooku, Ventress. Palpatine, Vader, Luke. The point is that this phenomenon is nothing new.

 

[Crewman6]

Great decision, easily the worst show of the SW tv shows. To throw more money at another season of this would have been a terrible idea

On to the next

Except for Ahsoka and the Book of Boba Fett and Mando Season 3.

 

[Crewman6]

The hilarious part about this is the most prominent recent example, Asajj Ventress' still unexplained resurrection in Bad Batch (when she was confirmed dead in the book Dark Disciple for MONTHS), was Dave Filoni contradicting himself (he authorized the book where Ventress dies based on his unfilmed TCW story, then greenlit her reappearance in Bad Batch because he wanted to use her again. Maybe he shouldn't have killed her to begin with)

That being said, some written works are necessary to understand the filmed ones (How Maul escapes from Palpatine to lead Mandalore again by TCW S7 is only explained in Son of Dathomir comic)

Disney needs to stop pretending that supplemental material (books, comics, etc.) are the same level of canon as filmed entertainment.

They should be lesser canon, as they always were originally, able to be ignored and tossed aside at a moment's notice for "real" content.

 

[Relayer1]

Except for Ahsoka and the Book of Boba Fett and Mando Season 3.

And Obi Wan.

And to be honest, I absolutely hate Andor.

 

[Set Harth]

I liked Andor a lot but the season 2 trailer does nothing for me.

 

[The Wormhole]

I know. Comments from anonymous sources - even to a news outlet with the level of credibility that Deadline has - are not the same thing as an official announcement/confirmation from Lucasfilm directly, though, which is the thing we haven't yet gotten.

"There is a difference between empiricism and stubbornness."

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

"There is a difference between empiricism and stubbornness."

Spock sees what you did there.

 

[Crewman6]

And to be honest, I absolutely hate Andor.

Rethink your life.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Except for Ahsoka and the Book of Boba Fett and Mando Season 3.

 

[Yistaan]

Qimir is released from carbonite in Ahsoka so that Disney gains the female fans following Manny Jacinto and something is salvaged from this entire Acolyte season.

 

[Relayer1]

Rethink your life.

That's exactly how my son reacted to my opinion of Andor too...

 

[Crewman6]

Qimir is released from carbonite in Ahsoka so that Disney gains the female fans following Manny Jacinto and something is salvaged from this entire Acolyte season.

As long as he starts by immediately killing Ahsoka, Thrawn and Morgan Elsbeth and taking over the narrative completely.

 

[Crewman6]

That's exactly how my son reacted to my opinion of Andor too...

You've got a smart boy there. Must take after his mother.