I'm okay with it being the new "in-Federation" fleet ship too... but "Neo-Connie" is a horrible nickname. It makes me think of something else...
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x05 - "Imposters"
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I'd just call it C3.
I can see Shaw being upset about it. But if it were acknowledged as a possibility within the narrative (it won't be), then rationally Shaw wouldn't have much of a choice. There's nowhere else that's both outside Federation space, as friendly to Jean-Luc, and as unlikely to be the subject of Changeling infiltration. (Seeking shelter from the Jurati Borg would be a possibility except that they appear to be located within Federation space and are presumably subject to constant monitoring by Starfleet.)
Plus, the Borg Artifact crashed on Coppellius and deposited a bunch of XBs there -- it's entirely possible that the Coppellians have reverse-engineered a fleet of ships for themselves.
I don't think it was malicious intent. I just think Terry Matalas has a fundamentally different creative vision for Jean-Luc Picard than Michael Chabon, and that he was willing to lose most of the original Star Trek: Picard characters in order to be able to afford the Next Generation cast. Whereas I think Chabon's vision would have precluded the possibility of the Soji/Jean-Luc relationship not being the central relationship of the entire series.
Yet, she was the first one in episode 4 to say that they should trust each other to solve problems like they've always done even though she ghosted them for decades. Hmmmm.
I'm hoping there's a reason for that inconsistency. Like she had suspicions that whatever is going on with Jack would be more dangerous if he got together with JL. Not sure.
Or, people are just inconsistent. Happens all the time with humans, especially when the are afraid.
I’m a little late to the party here, but my goodness I am LOVING season 3 of Picard. I haven’t been this obsessed with a Trek series since the glory days of watching TNG/DS9/VOY for the first time in the 90s.
It was an absolute joy seeing Michelle Forbes back as Ro. It was clever how we were kept in the dark about her true identity and intentions until that gut-wrenching scene in Ten Forward. Forbes and Stewart share the great chemistry they had thirty years ago. I liked Riker’s tacit acknowledgement of their history and what Ro meant to Picard too.
I must say I’ve been quite affected by Ro’s death. I understand why she had to die, in terms of the story and upping the personal stakes for Picard, but we’ve waited so long to see her return and it felt like a bit of a cheat. It’s certainly a more heroic death than dying off-screen at the hands of the Dominion, which many of us feared had happened to her, but could she not have been integrated into the TNG ensemble for a little longer to flesh out her story? I guess this would have been at the expense of one of the regular characters though so didn't make sense
By the way, was Michelle Forbes wearing a wig? Her hair looked a little off in this episode and there was no centre-parting, which is usually a tell
I thought the episode heavily recalled ‘Conspiracy’, with Ro as Walker Keel, warning to “trust no-one Jean-Luc”. Similarly Ro’s distrust of the crew of the Intrepid recalled Keel’s similar fears for the Horatio. The talk of the highest ranks of Starfleet being compromised also recalled this episode.
The Changeling bomb also reminded me of the device the Bashir Changeling had on the runabout in ‘By Inferno’s Light’. I’m guessing that was deliberate!
I really did worry that Worf was dead for a while too!
I do think, by the way, that it’ll be CRIMINAL if no-one from DS9 turns up in these last five episodes. Surely Picard will turn to the crew who know the Changeling threat better than anyone else in Starfleet? The obvious cameo would be from Odo, which obviously can’t happen for sad reasons. My money is on Colm Meaney making a return as O’Brien. He knows the Changelings better than anyone, has a bond with the TNG crew and we know that Matalas is a fan of the character. Imagine though if by some incredible feat, Malalas has managed to bring Avery Brooks out of retirement to kick the Changelings’ ass?! (I wouldn’t rule out Jeff Combs as Weyoun or Salome Jens as the Female Shapeshifter either).
One thing I’ve been meaning to ask - and apologies if it’s covered elsewhere in this thread - but If the Changelings are so hell-bent on retrieving Jack, why did one of them leave him to die without the gas mask the other week?
It was an absolute joy seeing Michelle Forbes back as Ro. It was clever how we were kept in the dark about her true identity and intentions until that gut-wrenching scene in Ten Forward. Forbes and Stewart share the great chemistry they had thirty years ago. I liked Riker’s tacit acknowledgement of their history and what Ro meant to Picard too.
I must say I’ve been quite affected by Ro’s death. I understand why she had to die, in terms of the story and upping the personal stakes for Picard, but we’ve waited so long to see her return and it felt like a bit of a cheat. It’s certainly a more heroic death than dying off-screen at the hands of the Dominion, which many of us feared had happened to her, but could she not have been integrated into the TNG ensemble for a little longer to flesh out her story? I guess this would have been at the expense of one of the regular characters though so didn't make sense
By the way, was Michelle Forbes wearing a wig? Her hair looked a little off in this episode and there was no centre-parting, which is usually a tell
I thought the episode heavily recalled ‘Conspiracy’, with Ro as Walker Keel, warning to “trust no-one Jean-Luc”. Similarly Ro’s distrust of the crew of the Intrepid recalled Keel’s similar fears for the Horatio. The talk of the highest ranks of Starfleet being compromised also recalled this episode.
The Changeling bomb also reminded me of the device the Bashir Changeling had on the runabout in ‘By Inferno’s Light’. I’m guessing that was deliberate!
I really did worry that Worf was dead for a while too!
I do think, by the way, that it’ll be CRIMINAL if no-one from DS9 turns up in these last five episodes. Surely Picard will turn to the crew who know the Changeling threat better than anyone else in Starfleet? The obvious cameo would be from Odo, which obviously can’t happen for sad reasons. My money is on Colm Meaney making a return as O’Brien. He knows the Changelings better than anyone, has a bond with the TNG crew and we know that Matalas is a fan of the character. Imagine though if by some incredible feat, Malalas has managed to bring Avery Brooks out of retirement to kick the Changelings’ ass?! (I wouldn’t rule out Jeff Combs as Weyoun or Salome Jens as the Female Shapeshifter either).
One thing I’ve been meaning to ask - and apologies if it’s covered elsewhere in this thread - but If the Changelings are so hell-bent on retrieving Jack, why did one of them leave him to die without the gas mask the other week?
It might just be an emotional plot point behind it.
I don't think that's an inconsistency. Figuring out what to do in a life-or-death emergency aboard a starship is a completely different question from deciding how to raise a child.
That would be amazing, and it seems most plausible to me.
When she was on the Shuttlepod show, Gates said there was.
She also apparently said (I haven't watched it yet, got this from a friend) she couldn't see Patrick in the 'look' scene from Episode 2 it was too dark
How did Seven of Nine become a first officer so quickly? Did she even attend Starfleet Academy?
Accelerated program according to one of the audio logs. Backed by Janeway and Picard.
^ Makes sense. Seven has access to the knowledge and experience of thousands of assimilated Starfleet officers, so she has effectively already attended the Academy.
I guess we'll find out!
Nice! The writing for this season has been so sharp, and this would be another example.
Then Janeway should have bowed out, and given Voyager to Seven in The Gift.
shaw hates them