Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x09 - "Terrarium"

[Michael]

Really, sometimes the writers should just be quiet.

This, to be honest. They should have just kept quiet about this and have viewers make up their own minds. This explanation they've come up with seems super unnecessary and feels like they’ve listened to some fans online too much. The different appearance of the Gorn or the fact that they seems like a new enemy in “Arena” did not need any kind of explanation. And certainly not something as cosmically stupid as “aliens made them forget”.

Whether you see this as a "remake" of "Arena" or some sort of "reimagining," it's just too close to the original for me. The one thing I absolutely do not want from modern Star Trek is any kind of retelling of stories from the earlier periods of Star Trek, either 1960s or 1980s-2000s Trek.

I did actually view this as a quasi retelling of “Arena”, yes. But then again, it’s actually kind of the opposite: Kirk and the Gorn spend almost the entire time together trying to kill each other, while Ortegas and her Gorn bestie make quick friends and help each other in profound ways. As much as I like “Arena”, I found this one a much more enjoyable and rewarding watch. Already one of my favorite episodes of Trek, to be honest. I don’t have a hard time at all just ignoring the end with the Metron and don’t let it mar my otherwise perfect impression of the episode.

 

[fireproof78]

And certainly not something as cosmically stupid as “aliens made them forget”.

They learned it from the Enterprise writers. I thought Enterprise was popular now.

 

[Michael]

Oh my god, if I had a dollar for every time someone who pointed out something they didn’t like about this show (or Picard or Discovery before it) got reminded that whatever they didn’t like was also done by previous Trek, I would be a goddamn millionaire. Is it such an outlandish idea to not like something about a current show that you also didn’t like about a previous show? Why is the assumption always that I’m critiquing something that I otherwise didn’t mind on another show? Do I always have to add a disclaimer saying that this also bothered me on an earlier show? And it’s not just you, @fireproof78, so I’m not singling you out, but frankly, it’s a bit over the top and can be quite exhausting. Whenever I see you or someone like you who also does this actually voice some criticism about this show I’m so damn tempted to throw it back at you and respond with “But the old shows had that too!”.

 

[fireproof78]

Oh my god, if I had a dollar for every time someone who pointed out something they didn’t like about this show (or Picard or Discovery before it) got reminded that whatever they didn’t like was also done by previous Trek, I would be a goddamn millionaire. Is it such an outlandish idea to not like something about a current show that you also didn’t like about a previous show? Why is the assumption always that I’m critiquing something that I otherwise didn’t mind on another show? Do I always have to add a disclaimer saying that this also bothered me on an earlier show? And it’s not just you, @fireproof78, so I’m not singling you out, but frankly, it’s a bit over the top and can be quite exhausting. Whenever I see you or someone like you who also does this actually voice some criticism about this show I’m so damn tempted to throw it back at you and respond with “But the old shows had that too!”.

I would welcome it

I think it's a great reflection of the things that Star Trek has repeated and how some work and some don't.

I don't think it needs a disclaimer; if anything it's just my own stupid idiosyncracies of finding humor in rather innane details. And my comment was meant more tongue in cheek than a serious "Did you not like this too?" question.

 

[Michael]

^ It’s okay. And I know you don’t mean anything by it. Please take this as some constructive feedback then, that yes, it can come across a tad bit tiring to constantly feel as if you are being accused of being hypocritical.

 

[fireproof78]

^ It’s okay. And I know you don’t mean anything by it. Please take this as some constructive feedback then, that yes, it can come across a tad bit tiring to constantly feel as if you are being accused of being hypocritical.

Noted.