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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x05 - "Imposters"

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Spike730 said:
Except she didn't. She told Jack where he could find his old man and he did in fact check up on him.
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Yes, I noted that issue in my original comment, but you edited it out of your reply. I can't explain that definitively. I'm sure we don't have all the information to piece things together.

Like I said, it's a guess. I feel like Beverly had other reasons for keeping them separated. Maybe she thought that the danger had passed. She indicated that when Jack was small, he had sleep issues that were apparently more dangerous that just that. Maybe she thought it was safe after those issues passed? :shrug:

We'll have to wait and see!
 
Mage said:
Also, pet peeve about this episode..... Ro is the family name, Laren her given name. It felt odd that in their sharing moments, Jean Luc kept saying Ro instead of Laren.
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It's respectful from Picard to use her family name. It was a matter of pride to her, she made it clear the first time they met.

"Yes, Ensign Laren, please sit down."
"Ensign Ro, sir."
"I beg your pardon?"
"The Bajoran custom has the family name first, the individual name second – I am properly addressed as Ensign Ro."
"I'm sorry, I didn't know…"
"No, there's no reason you should. It's an old custom – most Bajora today accept the distortion of their names in order to assimilate… I do not."
 
AresB said:
It's respectful from Picard to use her family name. It was a matter of pride to her, she made it clear the first time they met.

"Yes, Ensign Laren, please sit down."
"Ensign Ro, sir."
"I beg your pardon?"
"The Bajoran custom has the family name first, the individual name second – I am properly addressed as Ensign Ro."
"I'm sorry, I didn't know…"
"No, there's no reason you should. It's an old custom – most Bajora today accept the distortion of their names in order to assimilate… I do not."
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Ya so Ensign Ro would be correct just like Commander Riker. But the conversation in the last episode sounded more personal so he should have been saying Lauren like he does Will.
 
TimeIsAPredator said:
Ya so Ensign Ro would be correct just like Commander Riker. But the conversation in the last episode sounded more personal so he should have been saying Lauren like he does Will.
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I don’t think he was much for calling her by her first name. Riker maybe, or Guinan certainly, but not Picard. Despite their relationship, it is more teacher than anything, and so that makes a formal sense. I do think Riker should have had more of a reaction, but it feels like we are very much *just* looking at Ro’s first and last episodes as background, not so much the stuff inbetween. (And not even Riker’s dropping of the ‘tough first officer’ approach at the end of her first episode)
 
It seems in Bajoran culture that use of their personal name is more intimate than humans' first name usage. Very few people call Major/Colonel Kira 'Nerys' and when they do, it is clear there is sustained intimacy - Dax always calls her Kira, even though they are good friends. Since Picard hadn't seen Ro in decades and they have just barely managed to trust each other in that scene, it seems more respectful and normal to say 'Ro'.
 
REMEMBER RO LAREN?

REMEMBER CHANGELINGS?

REMEMBER HOW THEY GOT AROUND BLOOD SCREENING?

REMEMBER VULCANS?

Ok, I'm kidding and going to knock my Mike Stoklassa impression off. I liked the developments as usual, the scripting definitely feels better the more the peices of the puzzle come together.

Ro was a genuine surprise guest star and interesting to see, and actually seeemed to have a well done death rather than the idiocy of the first season shock deaths. Pacing is everything, and it seems to be nailing the pacing pretty well.

I continued to enjoy Worf and Raffi pairing, as others have said. "Buddy cop pairing didn't know I needed."

I like Shaw, poor man just needs a cup of cocoa, a teddy bear and a blanket by this point though.

Are the Neo-Connies going to be the main ship seen in the show? Answers point to yes, and I'm ok with them becoming the new "in-federation" fleet ship.
 
I’m starting to buy into the idea that Jack was born with the syndrome that Picard had, and that Beverly tried to treat it with something changeling. She looks way too calm when Jack is telling her something is wrong. She seems to know more than she’s telling. Remember the changelings in DS9- they almost did anything to get Odo back. They seem determined to be “whole” and can’t deal with a part of themselves being separated.
 
Campe said:
There are definitely some silly moments, but in 30 30 minute episodes, LDS has created some amazing characters that you really care for. It can really be a heartfelt show. Before it premiered, I never thought I’d say that about the “parody Trek” show.
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But that's the thing. LDS DOESN'T parody Star Trek. Yes, it's a comedy and occasionally pokes fun at various Trek tropes, and overused plot elements, but its not a parody of Star Trek.
 
arch101 said:
I’m starting to buy into the idea that Jack was born with the syndrome that Picard had, and that Beverly tried to treat it with something changeling. She looks way too calm when Jack is telling her something is wrong. She seems to know more than she’s telling. Remember the changelings in DS9- they almost did anything to get Odo back. They seem determined to be “whole” and can’t deal with a part of themselves being separated.
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Beverly: buT LiVinG wItH JEAN-luc is Too dangeROuS!
 
AresB said:
It's respectful from Picard to use her family name. It was a matter of pride to her, she made it clear the first time they met.

"Yes, Ensign Laren, please sit down."
"Ensign Ro, sir."
"I beg your pardon?"
"The Bajoran custom has the family name first, the individual name second – I am properly addressed as Ensign Ro."
"I'm sorry, I didn't know…"
"No, there's no reason you should. It's an old custom – most Bajora today accept the distortion of their names in order to assimilate… I do not."
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TimeIsAPredator said:
Ya so Ensign Ro would be correct just like Commander Riker. But the conversation in the last episode sounded more personal so he should have been saying Lauren like he does Will.
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Exactly. Picard has talked about people like Tasha, Deanna, Will. In moments like that parting, he would have used her given name. In this instance, Laren. Not Ro.
 
My only real critique: Rationally, the best place for the Titan to go to find a safe harbor and find the resources they would need to break into Daystrom Station... is Coppellius, to ask Soji for help. She would give it to them, easily, and getting a group of Soong-type androids on their side would be an immense benefit.

They won't, because Terry Matalas decided to ditch Soji even though her relationship with Jean-Luc was the foundation of Season One and the climax of that season promised that they would be as family going forward. But It's what ought to happen if you're gonna be both logical and follow basic ideas of dramatic unity for Star Trek: Picard as a narrative.
 
Sci said:
My only real critique: Rationally, the best place for the Titan to go to find a safe harbor and find the resources they would need to break into Daystrom Station... is Coppellius, to ask Soji for help. She would give it to them, easily, and getting a group of Soong-type androids on their side would be an immense benefit.

They won't, because Terry Matalas decided to ditch Soji even though her relationship with Jean-Luc was the foundation of Season One and the climax of that season promised that they would be as family going forward. But It's what ought to happen if you're gonna be both logical and follow basic ideas of dramatic unity for Star Trek: Picard as a narrative.
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Yeah, I can't see Shaw taking the Titan to Soji and her planet who tried to wipe out all organic life by calling in cybernetic worm gods barely 2 years ago. The possibility should be mentioned though I think.
 
Sci said:
They won't, because Terry Matalas decided to ditch Soji even though her relationship with Jean-Luc was the foundation of Season One and the climax of that season promised that they would be as family going forward. But It's what ought to happen if you're gonna be both logical and follow basic ideas of dramatic unity for Star Trek: Picard as a narrative.
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I doubt it was out of any malicious intent.
 
Yistaan said:
Beverly: buT LiVinG wItH JEAN-luc is Too dangeROuS!
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This is oversimplifying Beverly's viewpoint to the point of absurdity. A parent doesn't make rational choices with their child. They want to protect them, shield them and control the environment around them and that includes making changes in your life that don't see to make sense to an outsider. Beverly looked at Jean-Luc's life and felt that he had a target and would never back down from a challenge when faced with it because that's what she knew. She knew that her husband had died, that Wesley had almost died several times, and that Picard had been the subject of multiple attacks. So, she asserted control in the only way she knew how; she took Jack to live with her and she could attempt to control that danger, rather than trying to control Jean-Luc's life.
 
Geordi: Riker and Worf, you roped them into this too?

Jean-Luc: Did you not hear a word I just said? Is your daughter being impersonated by a changeling something that happens every other day for you?

Shaw: I know! Commodore La Forge's eyes see the entire electromagnetic spectrum, so he should easily be able to see if someone's a changeling or not!

Geordi: That's not how my eyes work!
 
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