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Discovery ending with Season 5
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According to flixpatrol, top USA P+ shows in 2022. This fits about where I'd see the shows in the trending space when I'd turn on the app - which I do a lot because I use it as my CBS local station / local news + Trek reruns and other P+ shows.
Take these with a grain of salt of course, but in the absence of anything else to discuss I thought it might be interesting to share.
https://flixpatrol.com/top10/paramount-plus/united-states/2022/full/#paramount-plus-2
Discovery at #6 (very often in the top shows list when I'd look at the app, even when no new episodes were on)
Picard at #12
SNW at #17
Lower Decks at #39
Voyager at #45 (only legacy show in the top 62) - usually the top legacy show when I go to the scifi section of the app so this tracks.
Prodigy at #49 - like i said in a previous post, sometimes not even trending in the kids section when airing new episodes.
Take these with a grain of salt of course, but in the absence of anything else to discuss I thought it might be interesting to share.
https://flixpatrol.com/top10/paramount-plus/united-states/2022/full/#paramount-plus-2
Discovery at #6 (very often in the top shows list when I'd look at the app, even when no new episodes were on)
Picard at #12
SNW at #17
Lower Decks at #39
Voyager at #45 (only legacy show in the top 62) - usually the top legacy show when I go to the scifi section of the app so this tracks.
Prodigy at #49 - like i said in a previous post, sometimes not even trending in the kids section when airing new episodes.
Indeed it was. When I saw those scenes, I knew for sure some of the people in charge of certain aspects of production had ZERO clue. Sadly those scenes cannot be replaced with proper visuals. Because we had a freaking 5 minute scene of Burnham fighting within one.....SMH....
I read somewhere that Kurtzman wanted it, but I have no idea if that was true, or one of those blame Kurtzman for everything things.
I personally don't have any issue with it. We know from Enterprise that 'bigger on the inside' tech has existed since the 31st Century.
Yeah but why does the discovery and NCc 1701 have it. For that matter what is the purpose of all that space??? For looks. I don't know maybe it's smoke and mirror to give them something to look at when they have a fight in the turbolift or get stuck... lol.....
I would not put it past Kurtzman to greenlight the Turbolift funhouse. Thankfully we haven't seen it with Picard yet.
But I will say that of all the things that bugged me with Discovery that was probably #1. Even more than the redone Klingon Makeup....lol
According to some Matalas sprang fully formed from the brow of Zeus.
Discovery was refit in Season 3. The 1701, probably just reused CG asset from Season 2.
The space in Season 2 in smaller than it appeared in Season 3 and can fit inside the Discovery, the art team even have it on a cutaway diagram of the ship.
According to some Matalas sprang fully formed from the brow of Zeus.
All hail the T’erry!
I had a feeling the concept of Paramount+ (alongside Disney+) was the product of corporate/investor stupidity induced hubris and avarice that had fueled the disasterous "streaming wars" (which already may have climaxed with Discovery owner and brain donor David Zaslav running HBO Max into the ground).
Unless someone decides to make a new Star Trek series set in the 32nd century or after, everything Star Trek does from here on out is going to be a prequel show just like every piece of new Star Wars content being made right now. Exploring the unknown and having any kind of suspense is now out the window for this franchise because we've got magic boy trauma to look forward to.
You're completely wrong, because we know almost nothing about what happens between Picard and Discovery Season 3, other than Vulcan-Romulan Unification and eventually a dilithium shortage.
There's still 800 years of unknown adventures to write.
Just like I don't like any stories involving New York because I know they end up in 9/11 or Japan in the Feudal period because of World War 2.
I don't understand this argument when changes are happening over centuries. So no enjoyment can be taken because some calamity is in the future? To put it on a Star Trek tangent what about Pike? Are people less interested in Pike because of the Menagerie?
I don't understand this argument when changes are happening over centuries. So no enjoyment can be taken because some calamity is in the future? To put it on a Star Trek tangent what about Pike? Are people less interested in Pike because of the Menagerie?
Just like I don't like any stories involving New York because I know they end up in 9/11 or Japan in the Feudal period because of World War 2.
I don't understand this argument when changes are happening over centuries. So no enjoyment can be taken because some calamity is in the future? To put it on a Star Trek tangent what about Pike? Are people less interested in Pike because of the Menagerie?
We also knew that no one was ever really in any danger when watching the old shows. Does that mean the episodes where the Enterprise/Voyager or any of its crew were ever in danger don't count?
It does. In fact when I watch old shows, like TOS, I am completely bored out of my gourd as there is no threat or danger there. They don't actually die.
I want my next Star Trek to be filmed in space and people to fucking die!
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The "Streaming Wars" were all based upon the idea that 1-3 content delivery systems would ultimately win out, with the smaller studios ultimately just being guns for hire for the big boys, and dying a slow death with the continued movement towards streaming. Hence everyone tried to pump up their own library quickly with exclusive content, in hopes consumers would pick them and dump the others. Then once the market had shaken out, the remaining services would jack up their prices, and cut way back on new content delivery.
It didn't really work, and we ended up with a "cold war" where every delivery system lost - not only lost money, but plateaued in terms of market share. Consumers have gotten smart, and tend to pick up/drop services month by month depending upon if they want to watch something on them. I've personally added/dropped HBO Max like three times already myself, and done it with Hulu twice.
I think Discovery will just barely have what it needs to be shown in strip-syndication: 65 episodes. Even though 100 is preferred. Weekly syndication is more likely. MeTV shows TOS once a week. I think DSC would go the same route.
Normally, I'd say Picard could just be added to TNG, but the shows are too tonally different. So it would have to be weekly.
I think of the two, DSC would have a better chance of making it on those channels than PIC. With Disco, it's a totally "new" series. With Picard, people are more likely to go "That's not the TNG I remember!"
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Never implied it wasn't. I was just stating that it was underwhelming.
I've called out the many faulty "science" from Berman Era star trek and even Roddenberry. I simply stated the cause of The Burn was underwhelming.
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