Discovery ending with Season 5

[eschaton]

I've called out the many faulty "science" from Berman Era star trek and even Roddenberry. I simply stated the cause of The Burn was underwhelming.

I think it's better than the possibility that it was caused by some sort of hostile alien race. People who were speculating regarding that annoyed me.

My preferred solution would be that we followed up on the global warming analogy from TNG, and discovered warp travel itself was damaging subspace. Maybe The Burn happened directly due to it, or some advanced alien race intervened to stop further damage which could destroy the galaxy.

Bonus points here because this would have resulted in Michael being proven wrong in her quest to 'solve" The Burn. There would have been no solution; it would have been for the best.

 

[Athena28]

According to some Matalas sprang fully formed from the brow of Zeus.

I thought that was me!

 

[Dukhat]

Unless someone decides to make a new Star Trek series set in the 32nd century or after, everything Star Trek does from here on out is going to be a prequel show just like every piece of new Star Wars content being made right now. Exploring the unknown and having any kind of suspense is now out the window for this franchise because we've got magic boy trauma to look forward to.

Not really, because any future showrunner can come along and declare that what happened in DSC is no longer in continuity with whatever show they’re making now. This kind of thing happens all the time. Heck, it happened with the franchise you mentioned: the SW EU is no longer canon to the Disney films.

Honestly, I don’t even think that the present showrunners of all five current Trek shows really care all that much about continuity between the shows anyway.

 

[Tomalak]

I think Discovery will just barely have what it needs to be shown in strip-syndication: 65 episodes. Even though 100 is preferred. Weekly syndication is more likely. MeTV shows TOS once a week. I think DSC would go the same route.

Normally, I'd say Picard could just be added to TNG, but the shows are too tonally different. So it would have to be weekly.

I think of the two, DSC would have a better chance of making it on those channels than PIC. With Disco, it's a totally "new" series. With Picard, people are more likely to go "That's not the TNG I remember!"

Is there still much of a market for syndication? TNG-R didn’t make any money and that was a dozen years ago, so I’d be surprised if these streaming shows are even offered. I’d guess any money would be a bonus.

Maybe the US market is more robust, but in the UK the legacy Trek shows might get viewers measured in the hundreds if they are repeated on some obscure channel at the foot of the EPG. UK linear TV ratings have more or less collapsed in the past five years as everyone moves to streaming, except for a handful of big events.

 

[Uhura's Song]

Is there still much of a market for syndication? TNG-R didn’t make any money and that was a dozen years ago, so I’d be surprised if these streaming shows are even offered. I’d guess any money would be a bonus.

Maybe the US market is more robust, but in the UK the legacy Trek shows might get viewers measured in the hundreds if they are repeated on some obscure channel at the foot of the EPG. UK linear TV ratings have more or less collapsed in the past five years as everyone moves to streaming, except for a handful of big events.

Heroes & Icons plays TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT back to back, starting at 8 pm, 6 days a week. All the way through, each series. Start to finish.

 

[Tomalak]

Heroes & Icons plays TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT back to back, starting at 8 pm, 6 days a week. All the way through, each series. Start to finish.

How many people watch?

 

[Lord Garth]

How many people watch?

Enough that they've been airing it that way for years. I think it's nuts. Who the Hell watches five Star Trek series every day? Rhetorical question. But apparently it works for H&I.

 

[Tomalak]

Yeah, that's why I doubt there's much money in it from Paramount's point of view after all the residuals are accounted for - but it's better than nothing.

 

[TRON JA307020]

I read somewhere that Kurtzman wanted it, but I have no idea if that was true, or one of those blame Kurtzman for everything things.

I personally don't have any issue with it. We know from Enterprise that 'bigger on the inside' tech has existed since the 31st Century.

But Discovery showed it in the mid 23rd on a federation starship. Nope. It was idiotic and made no sense.

Not sad about this and all. While Discovery had a few good characters, a good exterior ship design and a few other elements I liked. It was all over the place. I still cannot forgive them for making that incredibly stupid turbo lift interior scene...dear god what were they thinking????

Yeah not sad to see this show go at all. I hope we continue to get Trek set in the Picard timeline. Or even better none at all. 110 episodes of live trek after 5 years (with Picard and SNW) is a good run and it probably needs a 3 or 4 year break again.

Yup. I'm not sad to see Discovery go at all. I'm actually so happy it's going. Only 5 measly adventures that could have been told in 5 hour or 2 hours episodes. The damage can finally stop. I will say I'm ok with a 25th century trek series after picard. I also want a writer to make the discovery universe an alternate so the franchise can wipe the embarrassment of Discovery from the prime timeline. That's my dream anyway.

 

[fireproof78]

The damage can finally stop.

What damage? Demonstrate how it has negatively impacted the franchise. There are groups feeling more represented, people who got in to Trek because of Discovery and even the toxic fan culture kept it in the public consciousness because people kept talking about it. Damage? My ass that was damaging.

That's my dream anyway.

It's called turning it off.

 

[Tuskin38]

But Discovery showed it in the mid 23rd on a federation starship

Did you even read my entire post.

 

[Tuskin38]

Yup. I'm not sad to see Discovery go at all. I'm actually so happy it's going. Only 5 measly adventures that could have been told in 5 hour or 2 hours episodes. The damage can finally stop. I will say I'm ok with a 25th century trek series after picard. I also want a writer to make the discovery universe an alternate so the franchise can wipe the embarrassment of Discovery from the prime timeline. That's my dream anyway.

No one was forcing you to watch it.

 

[Lord Garth]

You guys are arguing with him as if it's productive. That's the most charitable way I can put it.

 

[fireproof78]

I had a good day at work. I was feeling exceptionally optimistic.

 

[Lord Garth]

My take on it is this: If people are complaining about the canonicity of DSC but not the canonicity of SNW, then it's time for them to admit it was never about Canon.

 

[fireproof78]

My take on it is this: If people are complaining about the canonicity of DSC but not the canonicity of SNW, then it's time for them to admit it was never about Canon.

It never was. It's a meaningless term. Its all about ego and feelings of personal affrontement than accuracy.

 

[Quinton]

I had a good day at work. I was feeling exceptionally optimistic.

Heck yeah, good work days.

 

[TRON JA307020]

My take on it is this: If people are complaining about the canonicity of DSC but not the canonicity of SNW, then it's time for them to admit it was never about Canon.

SNW could have been way better with visual Canon but it's better than STDs canon. At least their stories are better and the crew isn't crying all the time.

 

[fireproof78]

Insert *they're the same* meme here.

 

[Dar70]

My take on it is this: If people are complaining about the canonicity of DSC but not the canonicity of SNW, then it's time for them to admit it was never about Canon.

Sadly SNW does indeed carry some of the same Canon issues as well as that DAMN Turbolift funhouse.......I like SNW more but it doesn't mean I don't have issues with it.