Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 3x06 - "Hear All, Trust Nothing"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Lower Decks' started by Commander Richard, Sep 28, 2022.

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Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - Excellent!

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  2. 9

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  3. 8

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  4. 7

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  5. 6

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  1. Oddish

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    Maybe that's why he and Data got on so well... they both sucked at romance.

    I liked how they were able to have Kira be angry so much. Kira is awesome when she's angry. Morn and the baseball were nice touches, too.
     
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  2. eschaton

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    Honestly while I have my issues with this episode, I think they picked the right characters to showcase, in that Kia, Quark (and Morn) would be the least likely to leave the station (and of course Nana Visitor and Armin Shimerman are always up for this stuff).

    Going through the rest:
    • Ben Sisko isn't going to reappear, and Avery Brooks is done with the character
    • Jake could potentially stick around, but with his father gone, why wouldn't he have drifted away during his young adulthood?
    • Worf is obviously somewhere else with different Starfleet responsibilities.
    • O'Brien was canonically transferred off station
    • Garak had a government role reconstructing Cardassia.
    • Nog can't appear by virtue of Aron Eisenberg being dead
    • Odo can't appear by virtue of Rene Auberjonois being dead (and he's probably still in the Great Link anyway)
    • Cassidy Yates is probably busy raising her child somewhere.
    I could have seen Bashir (and maybe Ezri) in the episode, though I have to wonder if they'd stick around long-term as well. Both are Starfleet officers and could easily get reassigned, plus they have less tying them to the station.

    I do wish they had Rom/Leeta in the episode though. They seem like...appropriate characters...for the Lower Deckers to interact with.
     
  3. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Stupid Sexy Flanders! Premium Member

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    Another 9 this week for me this week! It would have been nice to have one or two more former cast members, but we had Morn. ;)

    The animation for the station was amazing! I was laughing at them talking about circling the pylons in awe as the DS9 theme played. And then again! :D

    Kira and Shaxs having history meant that they had some fun moments together. I particularly enjoyed it when they kept trying to get the last word on who paid back promises first.
     
  4. Starkers

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    Aw I loved it. I get what some people have said, and it felt like DS9 deserved a bigger story, but this is Lower Decks at the end of the day I guess.

    Lovely to have Visitor and Shimerman back, their voices really didn't sound the same but that's to be expected. Would have loved Bashir and Ezri to be there too but you can't have everything.

    Liked Tendi's Orion storyline, man Rutherford really needs to pick up on her mood! I liked how the Mariner subplot ended, and the "Do you know you use less oxygen when you're unconscious?" made me laugh out loud. Nice to see Bold Boimler not going away, that's going to end really badly isn't it?

    Shax and Kira was fun and it's genuinely nice to see Captain Freeman get additional responsibility and resolve the issues.
     
  5. Phily B

    Phily B Commodore Commodore

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    It was great and felt like a good comedy episode of DS9. It was wonderful to see the station again and I'm glad they kept any references to characters who didn't appear out of the show so we might possibly see them in future series or episodes.
     
  6. Mr. Patient

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    I enjoyed the DS9 nostalgia, but for me the best moment was Jennifer cheering as Mariner phasered all her insufferable friends.
     
  7. matthunter

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    Two of them, actually, in an alternate quantum reality where's she's doinking a robot.
     
  8. Bad Thoughts

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    Great LDS episode. 9. If I am being honest with myself, I had unrealistic expectations about what they could do with a DS9 crossover. I do think that we should have seen Mariner more on the station: wouldn't thus have been a great opportunity to deal with her actual growth as opposed to her more complicated past?

    "Tacky Cardassian fascist eyesore:" perfectly encapsulates the elegance of the design vs the trauma of the backstop.

    I think the voice differences had more to do with the recording process. I'm not sure people realize that DS9 was paced fairly slowly. Of the five pre Kurtzman live action series, DS9 featured the least dialogue (Voyager the most--they talked more and faster). It felt to me that Armin was speaking faster than normal, which may have been to accommodate LDS' pacing.
     
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  9. drt

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    That’s 25 episodes taking place in 2380. So maybe they’re using the formula that 25 episodes equals a year, which is essentially how TNG/DS9/VOY worked.
     
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  10. Romulan_spy

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    Armin says he did use the teeth:

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Ometiklan

    Ometiklan Captain Captain

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    I think the lesson Mariner, and Tendi and the other Orion, learned was to always just be yourself. Which for Mariner is: awesome!
     
  12. firehawk12

    firehawk12 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    That's what I thought the joke would be - they didn't want to blow out the candles so she just destroys them. Instead she goes around shooting everyone while her girlfriend laughs...

    This too. lol
     
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  13. Bad Thoughts

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    Are we surprised that Jennifer is as demented as Mariner?
     
  14. Amaris

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    Jennifer seems to be a good girl who grew up being a "gifted" child surrounded by people she wanted to please, and so tolerates a lot of friendships in her adulthood that she knows isn't emotionally healthy for her, but she still wants to please people and can't turn them away lest she hurt their feelings.

    Mariner suffers from no such moral compunctions. :lol:
     
  15. matthunter

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    It also seems that, whilst Boimler is a sex object, it's only for a certain type of girl who might be described as having a cranium full of atmosphere.

    Jen's friends ARE in Starfleet, so they must have a bit more smarts than the gals on the vineyard, but they sure didn't come across like it.
     
  16. Amaris

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    I think Boimler attracts the wine mom aesthetic.
     
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  17. matthunter

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    I was about to post the Amy Pond "Mummy needs more wine" pic but then I figured out Boimler and Rory do share quite a few traits...
     
  18. matthunter

    matthunter Admiral Admiral

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    Also, was that girl who was dancing at the salon wearing the maroon Troi catsuit?!
     
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  19. Amaris

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    Indeed.

    Not that I saw.

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  20. matthunter

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