Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[Campe]

I was working on a response, but as always @Serveaux said what I wanted far more eloquently. So as opposed to muddying the waters, I’ll just say: “What he said.”

 

[Therin of Andor]

I wasn’t keen on overwriting Chapel, because there’s no need for her to be in the show if they wanted a different character.

I assume the writers are keen to have a character on hand whom we, or at least the audience of TOS, know will eventually develop an unrequited love for Spock.

Lieutenant Galloway. The man so strong even a phaser set to kill and vaporize its target can't keep him from coming back.

David Lee Ross also played Johnson in a different episode. Perhaps the only error is that they call him Galloway in the end credits of the final episode? He is not identified by name in the episode.

 

[Therin of Andor]

"They can't just recast the same character with an actor with a completely different appearance or of a different ethnicity! People will notice and it'll destroy credibility and canon!"

And in the penultimate episode, after several episodes with Eartha Kitt, Catwoman went back to being Julie Newmar's stuntwoman, Marilyn Watson.


Six Arch Criminals' stand-ins by Ian McLean, on Flickr

 

[Rahul]

I really fucking hate the constant black-washing of modern Trek.

No, not the actors. NuRobert April is fine.

The goddamn starships! They are supposed to be white! Egg-shell white for the classic Connor. In nuTrek all ships look black. That's just... wrong.

 

[Belz...]

The goddamn starships! They are supposed to be white! Egg-shell white for the classic Connor. In nuTrek all ships look black. That's just... wrong.

Gray. The original 1701 was gray.

 

[Lorcan Kelly]

Unusual choice as it conclusively makes the animated series non canon. Nice actor though.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

Unusual choice as it conclusively makes the animated series non canon. Nice actor though.

It really doesn't.

 

[cooleddie74]

Mister Leslie?

Galloway.

 

[Mudd]

Unusual choice as it conclusively makes the animated series non canon.

"Canon" doesn't work that way. This doesn't take TAS out of official continuity any more than Robin Curtis's casting as Saavik decanonized TWOK.

 

[Rahul]

Unusual choice as it conclusively makes the animated series non canon. Nice actor though.

Isn't TAS only semi-canon anyway?
I mean that show is hella' goofy. Also has personal force fields and all other kinds of wacky tech & adventures.

IMO this is more like an adaptation. Like turning a book character black.

It's not like they are turning him into an alien (cough ...Colt... cough). Had they turned Spock or Pike black - it would have been a reboot for me. April? More of a nit-pick. Not half as egregious as Nic Locarno/Tom Paris für example. YMMV of course.

 

[Mudd]

Nothing egregious about Locarno/Paris. Different characters played by the same actor. Common throughout Trek's history.

 

[Rahul]

*same character with a different name

 

[Mudd]

*same character with a different name

Not at all. As the producers pointed out, they found it not worthwhile to try to redeem a character like Locarno who'd done the sort of thing he'd done. Entirely reasonable call.

Even if what you said was not wrong, it still wouldn't merit "egregious."

 

[Campe]

TAS kinda goofy? Naaah, I mean having a giant Spock is something I’d totally expect to see in live action.

Seriously, did love the callback to that in Lower Decks.

 

[Therin of Andor]

NuRobert April is fine.

Robert and Sarah April by Ian McLean, on Flickr

Master of disguise!

Fred Bronson (John Culver) and Mike Okuda approve of nuApril:
https://trekmovie.com/2022/05/02/st...ICh7-pz04TQb5PmvDeCLtk22yMBlNBXZbEf5xAdv0Os_4

 

[Belz...]

Galloway.

Also happened to Leslie, so that's two.

 

[Belz...]

Nothing egregious about Locarno/Paris. Different characters played by the same actor. Common throughout Trek's history.

Wait, are you saying that Pulaski and Miranda Jones aren't the same person???????

 

[Tuskin38]

Isn't TAS only semi-canon anyway?

CBS brought it into full canon in the mid 2000s as part of the marketing gif the DVD release.

 

[fireproof78]

It's not like they are turning him into an alien (cough ...Colt... cough).

Well, if we are being nitpicky Colt wasn't called Colt The Cage or Discovery. So that's a non-issue.

 

[valkyrie013]

Couldn't they have had Any black admiral /Commodore ?? Why change April ? If it's just a name drop why the race recast ??

Just call him Admiral Steve and move on. Or if they needed a Poc use already established ones like Admiral Nogura or Stone or Mendez.. Bring over Tyler Perry as Admiral Barnett from JJ verse.