Yeah. But that was in space.
Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 1x03 - "Starstruck"
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I liked it. This was a very effective "crew out of their element" episode and it had a lot of good character development. Obviously it skews a lot younger, but I still enjoyed it.
I don't know what else to say. I think I'll call it an 8.
I don't know what else to say. I think I'll call it an 8.
She has the VOY communicator in some of the promo pictures, but not all. It seems the creators were confused as well XD
A training hologram is not a command hologram
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Firstly, these races were imprisoned on a mining asteroid. I doubt information of the outside galaxy was so readily given to them. Secondly, there were non-Voyager affiliated humans in the Delta quadrant even during Voyager's run. Anything from abduction to getting caught in a transwarp conduit could explain that. If it can happen to them, it can happen to any Alpha/Beta quadrant species. From there, life... ah... finds a way.
Slipstream Drive must've taken off after Voyager got home and nothing from 2399-set Picard actually contradicts this as of yet. It's all I've got.
Plus Lower Decks, despite taking place in 2381, secretly wishes it took place in the 2360s. It doesn't want to be Post-Nemesis, just like Discovery didn't really want to be Pre-TOS. Lower Decks wants to take place during TNG Proper but can't, because then it loses the ability to reference the back-half of the Berman Era.
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It wouldn't surprise me if they bring the Vesta and/or Aventine into official canon, as they've already 'borrowed' a few snippets from the novelverse.
I’m not buying that. Just the fact that there are Alpha Quadrant races in the Delta Quadrant in what is supposed to be the year 2383, and that they are an integral part of the show and make up half of the main cast is more than just some coincidence or hand-waving away. I think there’s much more going on here than just some prison asteroid miners.
Yeah, I’ve noticed that too. It’s almost like when Gene Roddenberry wanted TNG to act like the TOS films never existed. It’s very odd.
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No one said there isn't more to it, just that them being here isn't far-fetched or unreasonable to the timeline it's in.
They cane before the Federation.
Not as strong as last week's episode, but still lots of good moments in it, so 7 out of 10.
There was good character development, and it was fun moments from the Janeway hologram as she reacted to the crew.
There was good character development, and it was fun moments from the Janeway hologram as she reacted to the crew.
Much better than the premiere. I’m giving it an 8. Last week was too hyper for me. Less action this week was an improvement. Dal was pretty annoying here but last week he didn’t bother me at all.
Thanks to our ol' pal Dangling Modifier, all that tells us is that Kate Mulgrew is set in 2383.
Good to know that Kate Mulgrew will live passed 400. I'm modest and have only been aiming for 100... or I'll die trying.
It doesn't really, like you said, because there are a couple natural explanations. But they keep dropping hints in the first two episodes that makes me think this is another one of there many mysteries they are going for.
Why settle or aim low?
Biological immortality is inevitable thanks to exponential developments and returns by around 2030-2035... that's at most 14 years away.#
Plus, increasing research is saying that there might not be an upper hard limit to the human lifespan (or healthspan).
And we have examples of humans who are 80 years old, but look 20-30 years younger and are fit (most of them go to the gym though)... and that lifespan and healthspan are thriving when humans are on a plant based nutrition (absent of any/all animal products).
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The new commbadge as used on the Protostar by Janeway and the kids reminds me heavily of the Red Squad logo.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Red_Squad?file=Red_Squad_logo.png
This would further solidify the notion the Protostar is a training ship as much as it is an experimental one - similar to the Red Squad, but the Defiant's sister ship (the USS Valiant) DID have a more experienced crew which died and the Red Squad took over - so it looks like a recycling of the storyline, but with an added bonus of a training hologram who can impart valuable knowledge onto teens.
Its possible that SF decided to integrate training holograms on ships that have SF cadets... quite possibly BECAUSE of what happened on the Valiant.
The kids on the Valiant were too cocky and arrogant for their own good... one would think such a mentality would have ceased to exist in UFP, and especially wouldn't be present in SF cadets (because we know from science that there isn't any biological drive that makes teens rebellious, etc.).
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I would also like it if live action was as tentative to Trek lore/canon and progression as the animated series are.
Huh... maybe the animated series are the ones getting the good writers (or have less restrictions in place).
As a person who works in 3d software, I do stuff like that all the time for nothing.
Sure, its a bit time consuming to get the look right (and, depending on the machine, render times can be short or long - its a matter of optimization really)... but nothign that can't be done in a rlatively short amount of time if you're experienced in the software.
Plus, various TV shows like this probably DO have access to cloud based rendering and aren't limited to home personal computers (which are admittedly far more powerful for 3d these days) which would further reduce render times.
I noticed something interesting in this episode. When the Janeway hologram is explaining the Federation to the new crew and shows holograms of past famous Starfleet ships, one of them is the original Enterprise as it looked like in TOS. Not the Enterprise as seen in Disco (where it looks different than the TOS one) and in the upcoming Strange New Worlds series.
This is kind of mind boggling to me because I thought Disco's modified version of the TOS Enterprise was now canon and that the Enterprise as seen in TOS (looks-wise) is now non-canon. In other words, I thought the Disco Enterprise is how the NCC-1701 was always supposed to look in the prime timeline.
As you can see on the top left of this screen, that is most definitely the TOS Enterprise. What's funny is that in this same scene (but cannot be seen in this photo) on the far right the USS Discovery can be seen!
This is kind of mind boggling to me because I thought Disco's modified version of the TOS Enterprise was now canon and that the Enterprise as seen in TOS (looks-wise) is now non-canon. In other words, I thought the Disco Enterprise is how the NCC-1701 was always supposed to look in the prime timeline.
As you can see on the top left of this screen, that is most definitely the TOS Enterprise. What's funny is that in this same scene (but cannot be seen in this photo) on the far right the USS Discovery can be seen!
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I've been wondering if the new commbadge is intended to be a less stylised version of the lower decks one. The early 2380s is certainly an odd period for uniforms!
so far we’ve got:
-the first contact ones, with grey shoulders, last seen active way into 2381
-the lower decks ones, colourful, already in use in 2380
-the Picard flashbacks ones, black with coloured lines, already in use in 2381
of these the FC and Picard still use the Generations commbadge way into 2385, but the lower decks ones use a new design, which might or might not be the same as Prodigy’s but definitely isn’t a stylised version of the FC one, already in 2380.
Never before in the history of Star Trek we’ve had a more confusing uniforms situation (and I’m not tackling the mid 23rd century, which is becoming pretty confusing already).
This is not necessarily a bad thing, only an observation.
na, we’re just supposed to believe they look the same.
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