Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by bbjeg, Apr 6, 2014.

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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

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  2. A

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  3. A-

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  4. B+

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  5. B

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  8. C

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  10. D+

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  11. D

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  13. F

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  1. The Nth Doctor

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    She's an excellent addition to the cast! She was also really good in Altered Carbon, which is where I saw her first before I was finally able to watch the Hamilton recording.
     
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    This is going to be one of those "don't think about it too hard" things. The idea of "time police" AND near infinitely branching timelines is inherently at odds.
    Probably about as much as it'll be compared to the The fighting monks of the Order of Wen the Eternally Surprised, from Discworld. ;)
    Honestly, MiB is likely to be the most often mentioned point of reference.
    It still feels so weird to me that they're making Ms. Marvel before a Captain Marvel movie set in the present day.
     
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    I think the reason they didn't do anything about the Avengers was because Cap put the Stones all back. This Loki variant didn't when he used the Space Stone to escape. So that's why they went after him.
     
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    Yeah, fair points there. I probably won't overthink all of that, but those questions sprung to mind as I watched that trailer for the first time. I do wonder if the show will at least attempt to handwave why it wasn't a big deal.

    Feige has specifically said that the Ms. Marvel series will set up the Captain Marvel movie. As seen in WandaVision, it's clear that Captain Marvel has some kind of public profile and fan base so that should be enough to inspire Kamala Khan.
     
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    Sure, I get the logic of it all on paper and I'm not objecting or anything; it just *feels* weird to have the spin-off/sidekick/legacy type character get a show when the "original" only has 1.25-ish movies under her belt...sash...whatever. Like if they did an Ironheart show between Iron Man 1 & 2, or a Birds of Prey movie with Cassandra Cain without doing either a Batman or Batgirl movie first...oh wait... ;)

    I mean if you think about it in terms of screentime; by the time Carol gets her second movie, Kamala would have already had something like twice as much screentime, with all the story depth and character development that goes with it.

    Does this not feel odd to anyone else?
     
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    Sure, but then I've always felt it odd that Quake has more screen time than Iron Man, Captain America and Thor combined.
     
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    Guardians of the Multiverse crossover planned with the "What if...? members


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    Give it to me now!

    Where did you find that image?
     
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    I wonder if they'll team up in one of the episodes or a separate series/movie?
     
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    I don't know, but the whole concept of characters from different alternate realities coming together to form a team sounds an awful lot like The Exiles.
     
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    That's what I was thinking. The Exiles is basically Sliders with super-heroes.
     
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    Tom Hiddleston provided some insights in a new interview with Empire Magazine. One particularly intriguing insight:

    "I want to preserve the freshness of the show for when it emerges, but something to think about is the [show's] logo, which seems to refresh and restore," Hiddleston explained. "The font of how Loki is spelled out seems to keep changing shape. Loki is the quintessential shapeshifter. His mercurial nature is that you don't know whether, across the MCU, he's a hero or a villain or an anti-hero. You don't know whether you can trust him. He literally and physically changes shape into an Asgardian guard, or into Captain America repeatedly. Thor talks about how he could change into a snake."

    Hiddleston added, "I think that shapeshifting logo might give you an idea that Loki, the show, is about identity, and about integrating the disparate fragments of the many selves that he can be, and perhaps the many selves that we are. I thought it was very exciting because I've always found Loki a very complex construct. Who is this character who can wear so many masks, and changes shape, and seems to change his external feeling on a sixpence?"​
     
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    The Loki bit is hinted at in the trailer very briefly.
     
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    Oh, man, that would be amazing!
     
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