Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by bbjeg, Apr 6, 2014.

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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

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  2. A

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  8. C

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  1. Skywalker

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    I do wonder if they also intend to have Kamala Khan join this iteration of the Young Avengers.
     
  2. Grendelsbayne

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    I expect there to be 1 young hero team in the mcu, named Young Avengers, but adapting characters and maybe stories from both the YA and the Champions. It just wouldn't make much sense to have 2 different teams treading such similar ground. And the Champions wouldn't work in a direct adaptation, anyway, since the MCU 1st gen heroes are at the peak of their heroicness and fame so the whole 'rejecting the flaws of the older generation' shtick wouldn't make any sense.

    So I think Kamala and Riri Williams will both definitely be there. Depending on what happens with White Vision, there could perhaps be Viv Vision as well. Maybe Amadeus Cho's Hulk/Brawn depending on how the hulk franchise is used moving forward. That's probably it, though. I don't see Miles Morales showing up while Peter Parker is still a teenager or Sam Alexander being the very first superpowered Nova in the MCU and teenage Cyclops is obviously not going to happen.

    But really, it very well could just be Kamala and Riri since, as has been mentioned, there are already a lot of characters in line for this concept. At some point there's just too many characters to work with. I also wonder about the idea of Iron Lad, for the same reason. Plus the added issue that Ironheart is definitely happening and I don't know that they want to have two different young Iron Man analogs competing with each other. Though, on the other hand, Armor Wars is also confirmed so maybe multiple Iron adjacent characters is exactly what they want.
     
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  4. JD

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    Yeah, if we do get a Young Avengers team, I definitely expect to see Kamala Khan/Ms. Marvel, and Riri Williams/Ironheart as part of the team.
     
  5. Relayer1

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    They could do YA, but then have "musical differences" regarding Sr. team oversight and lead into Champions that way.
     
  6. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Cartoon Premium Member

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    But then we can't have the Champions spin off with Black Widow, Ghost Rider, the Angel, Iceman and Hercules!!!! ;)
     
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  7. Relayer1

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    I don't like that team !
    :whistle:
     
  8. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Cartoon Premium Member

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    Definitely in the running for worst Marvel team.
     
  9. The Nth Doctor

    The Nth Doctor Infinite Possibilities... Premium Member

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    I know nothing about that particular team, so no comment on their history, but that's an excellent set of heroes. Well, aside from Hercules. Meh.

    Edit: Wait, is the Angel the same person as Archangel or someone else entirely?
     
  10. Nerys Myk

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    Same. Archangel was the badass ultracool hard edge 80's upgrade.
    They were an odd mix. Superspy ex villain, Demi-god, motorcycle riding demon and two left over mutants.
     
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  11. The Nth Doctor

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    That's what I thought but I just wanted to make sure what with the definitive article there.
     
  12. Reverend

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    I feel like this is the kind of line-up that'd work best if given to a Gunn or a Waititi...I mean there's no way you should be trying to play that straight.
     
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  13. Alidar Jarok

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    I liked Champions as an Iceman/Angel team up in an era where they didn't have a team. I also liked when they had Black Widow associated stories (and Hercules was used OK). Ghost Rider never seemed to work on that team at all. I would have preferred Athena/Venus from the earliest stories sticking around instead (although I guess you can't have two women on a team in that era). The book lasted something like 12 issues in an era where most made it past 100 so it's really a footnote. The fact that it gets referenced and the name has been reused is probably a testament to the impact it somehow had despite being a terrible idea.
     
  14. DarrenTR1970

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    It was either the second or third issue of Marvel's Godzilla back in the late-seventies where Godzilla attacked San Francisco and the Champions, along with SHEILD, tried to stop him.
    At one point, Godzilla's foot came down on Hercules.
    Hercules then proceeded to use his strength to flip Godzilla over onto his back.
    So, score one for Hercules and the Champions.
     
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  15. FPAlpha

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    My idea too - when i first saw the promo pic for Guardians i thought this is it, this will be their first bomb at the box office but it turned out to be one of the best movies and even after 22 the first Guardians movie is stil in my top 3.
     
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    I still remember all the fun I had bumping all the "Guardians will bomb!" threads on IMDB when it finally came out.
     
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  17. publiusr

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    Marvel zombies might be a way to bring back some characters
     
  18. JD

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    I think they're doing Marvel Zombies as an episode of What If?
     
  19. DEWLine

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    I don't think it's going to be called "Young Avengers". But there will, I expect, be an "Avengers 5" with those characters at the heart of it, along with Ms. Marvel, Spider-Man, and a few others held over from Phases 1 thru 4.
     
  20. dupersuper

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    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Black Widow may be unavailable...

    I still remember being at a wedding telling my less comic booky friends that the next MCU movie was going to feature a talking raccoon and talking tree.