Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by bbjeg, Apr 6, 2014.

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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

  1. A+

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  2. A

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  3. A-

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  4. B+

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  5. B

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  6. B-

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  8. C

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  10. D+

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  11. D

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  1. theenglish

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    Yeah--I'm for putting things in Code for the television shows. The episode is only a day old and not everyone is going to have it in the past forty eight hours.
     
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  2. Reverend

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    I leaned the hard way that if I'm not up to date on Marvel stuff, I stay out of this thread.
     
  3. Skywalker

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    The title of the thread does say "spoiler-heavy."
     
  4. The Nth Doctor

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    Fair points but it's still a good idea to air on the safe side for things that just came out.
     
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    The first big question that comes to mind: Why didn't these guys jump in when the Avengers decided to mess around with time and pluck the Infinity Stones out of their proper places?

    The second big question, spurned by the first: How much will the Time Variance Authority be compared with The Umbrella Academy's the Commission?
     
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  7. Grendelsbayne

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    I kind of got the impression barely anyone watched TUA so maybe not that much.
     
  8. The Nth Doctor

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    And that's a crying shame because it's so damn good. That said, clearly enough people are watching because a third season is comimg.
     
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  9. Christopher

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    A, because the Avengers were saving half the universe and it would've been stupid to meddle with that. B, because the Avengers (or Cap, rather) put the Stones back where they came from when they were done with them, so there was no further need for intervention. Loki, by contrast, has been playing fast and loose with the timeline, with no interest in putting things back to normal. And he himself is an anomaly (a "Variant") by escaping his own death, which is not true of the Avengers.
     
  10. Tuskin38

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    The avengers doing what they did was probably considered part of the normal flow of time.

    Some events need to happen.
     
  11. Mr. Adventure

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    Man, that Marvel marketing machine is relentless.
     
  12. The Nth Doctor

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    Every time I watch the trailer and I see the trio of tall statues, I keep thinking I'm seeing "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" until I pause it and see all three statues are exactly the same. I'm curious if there's any regarding those statues and whether it's something that's explain. Or if I'm just seeing something that isn't anything.

    Stupid by whose standards? Needed by whose standards? Owen Wilson's Mobius specifically says that the TVA "protect the proper flow of time" and also says that Loki taking the Tesseract "broke reality." By their own standards, Thanos' Snap is that proper flow of time, despite the dire consequences, because it happened without any outside temporal forces (and remained so for five years). Loki's actions, which weren't even premeditated, suggests that the Avengers' active removal of the Infinity Stones would also break reality.

    As for Cap returning them, at what point does the TVA know that Cap successfully did that? It becomes a question of temporal mechanics and how the TVA perceives what happens when and which was is the correct way. And how they define as "correct."
     
  13. Christopher

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    "Half of everyone in the universe" doesn't cut it for you? Including half the TVA's own membership, presumably.


    No, because the Avengers put them back.


    What a strange question to ask about time travelers. I mean, we literally saw them looking at a graph of branching timelines. Clearly their perception of time is not limited to the instantaneous present.

    Not to mention that Cap agreed to return them to just after they were taken. So that means they were never really missing for any length of time. Just because the viewpoint characters (and the audience) didn't experience that return until later doesn't mean their subjective perception of the sequence of events outweighs the objective chronology of the universe.

    Also, your questions presuppose that the TVA is capable of intervening instantaneously before any significant disruption can happen. The trailer makes it pretty clear that Loki has been making quite a mess of things before they managed to catch him. And given all the bureaucratic runaround and paperwork we saw, it's no wonder there's a lag in their response time.
     
  14. JD

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    It looks like it should be a lot of fun.
     
  15. crookeddy

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    So what does the Sony - Netflix deal do for the future of Spider-Man movies on D+?
     
  16. Caretaker

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    Well, I assume in terms of Spider-Man, they are only getting SUMC film and the Into the Spider-Verse films. Also, they mention future films and not specifically the back catalog, so maybe it is limited to films that haven't been released yet.
     
  17. JD

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    None of them are on there now, and they won't be as the deal is in place.

    Do we know yet how far along they are on Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk and Moon Knight? I'm just curious when we should expect to start seeing pictures, and trailers, and things like that.
     
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    Ms. Marvel has been filming since November so I imagine we'll be getting something soon. Moon Knight and She-Hulk both start filming sometime this month.
     
  19. JD

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    OK, that's about where I expected them to be.
     
  20. Turtletrekker

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