That was one of the very few good additions to the lore, as it gave Sarek reason to hate Spock for choosing Starfleet
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My thought was that since visiting Talos IV was a capital offense it overrode any other potential mutiny charges that would need a separate court martial. If you're going to make the guilty party meet the firing squad (or whatever they had planned.. really need to retcon that one) not much point tacking on time on a reformatory.
Turns out you were right. I'm impressed with their reliability. Too bad it's not reliability for something else.
I really hate being right in this particular case. I also wish these people would - for ONCE - just wait until the first episode airs AND approach things with an open mind and not "this has to be TOS or TNG 2.0, otherwise it's trash" mindset. But they're too set in their way of thinking by now. Nothing will ever satisfy them, not even if the ones in charge of Trek somehow DO end up making TNG 2.0 or something.
Jean-Luc himself said it best: "I think when one has been angry for a very long time, one gets used to it. And it becomes comfortable, like old leather. And, finally, it becomes so familiar that one can't ever remember feeling any other way."
There's no hate involved, I'm simply disappointed in the current CBS offerings. As far as Kurtzman goes, I love the Abrams films, of which he wrote two. Seems people keep trying to push "hate" into the narrative as a way to disregard the criticisms of people who dislike the current offerings and aren't quiet about it.
Honestly, I go back and forth on this one. On the one hand, yes, continuity matters and shows that miss it can irritate me. On the other hand, if I'm thinking about another show then maybe I'm not invested in the one I'm watching...
Well, if you're there at the premiere of Star Trek: Discovery, on a niche streaming service, I'd say you'd have Star Trek generally on your mind. Being a fan is what drove you there in the first place.
But, I'm trying to just watch the show not sit there and play Star Trek's greatest hits in my brain.Well, if you're there at the premiere of Star Trek: Discovery, on a niche streaming service, I'd say you'd have Star Trek generally on your mind. Being a fan is what drove you there in the first place.
That is where people are different. Watching "The Vulcan Hello"/"The Battle of the Binary Stars", watching Spock's big adopted sister mutiny right off the bat pretty much sent my mind right to "The Menagerie". Funny how synapses work.
And I'm sure I wasn't the only one.
I would love to hear from people who thought similarly.That is where people are different. Watching "The Vulcan Hello"/"The Battle of the Binary Stars", watching Spock's big adopted sister mutiny right off the bat pretty much sent my mind right to "The Menagerie". Funny how synapses work.
And I'm sure I wasn't the only one.
I though both seasons of DSC so far have been something of a mess. Knowing the BTS turmoil, with showrunners being fired during both seasons, I have an inkling why -- but that doesn't "un mess" the episodes.
I didn't specifically flash on "The Menagerie", but I did dislike most of the callbacks. Spock's secret sister? Ooooookay. A never-before-seen instantaneous space travel system, a decade before Kirk? Using fungus? That we've never heard of before? Ooooookay. A series that seemed to have been designed for "binge" viewing, until CBSAA decided to release an episode at a time, to keep subscribers signed up? So we had time to work out all the Big Reveals well in advance (Lorca is an imposter, etc.)? Ooooookay.
By and large, I thought the performances were good. I thought the writing, on an episode-by episode basis, was OK. But there were too many creative choices that didn't work for me. Not bad enough for me to hate it, or even dislike it. But "like" was as much enthusiasm as I could muster.
IMHO, it should've been allowed to be it's own thing, with less genuflection to nostalgia. But, I guess nostalgia's the name of the game for a 5-decades-old franchise. Without nostalgia, what have they even got to draw in viewers?
I didn't specifically flash on "The Menagerie", but I did dislike most of the callbacks. Spock's secret sister? Ooooookay. A never-before-seen instantaneous space travel system, a decade before Kirk? Using fungus? That we've never heard of before? Ooooookay. A series that seemed to have been designed for "binge" viewing, until CBSAA decided to release an episode at a time, to keep subscribers signed up? So we had time to work out all the Big Reveals well in advance (Lorca is an imposter, etc.)? Ooooookay.
By and large, I thought the performances were good. I thought the writing, on an episode-by episode basis, was OK. But there were too many creative choices that didn't work for me. Not bad enough for me to hate it, or even dislike it. But "like" was as much enthusiasm as I could muster.
IMHO, it should've been allowed to be it's own thing, with less genuflection to nostalgia. But, I guess nostalgia's the name of the game for a 5-decades-old franchise. Without nostalgia, what have they even got to draw in viewers?
Knowing thribs something he doesn't like = mistake. And lazy writers/producers.
Great casting is the one thing CBS Trek seems to do well, though I think the writing lets the actors down more often than not.
See, I can relate to @BillJ in this particular instance-the fungus reminded me of the Traveler in "Where No One has Gone Before." He said that "Thought is the basis of reality, thus excusing his ability to travel as quickly and as far as he did.
So, that for instance reminded me of past Trek and so I went "Yeah, that sounds about right for Trek."
I thought the Spore Drive could've been really interesting to explore things that couldn't be explored via the conventional Star Trek means (transporter, warp drive). They chose to use it to explore nostalgia, which was a huge disappointment for me. Much like the Red Angel in season two ended up as a disappointment. Not because of the tech, because they really didn't follow through on the promise of faith vs. science.
See, I think the Spore Drive is really interesting. No matter how many times I revisit DSC I still am intrigued by that concept.
The Red Angel was interesting to me, and I though the faith and science aspect could have been elevated, but I think it ended up personified in Michael and Spock's relationship, so it worked OK.
Yeah, which makes all the religious undertones in New Eden just look out of place in the end.
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