Star Trek: Strange New Worlds. Confirmed.

[DigificWriter]

Don't trust anything you read online - about any franchise, including Star Trek - unless it comes from either an official press release or one or more of the following sites (in decreasing order of credibility):
* Variety
* The Hollywood Reporter
* Deadline Hollywood/TV Line
* Entertainment Weekly
* Vanity Fair
* Empire Online
* Slash Film
* TV Guide
* People Magazine
* Entertainment Tonight
* The Ringer
* The Wrap
* Cinemablend
* Bleeding Cool


Fansites like Star Wars News Network, Making Star Wars, Kryptonsite/KSiteTV, Supergirl.TV/Batwoman.TV/Stargirl.TV/TheWitcher.TV, TrekMovie, TrekToday, The Force.Net, and Fansided.com, amongst others, can also be generally relied upon to provide credible information, although not always.

 

[Tim Thomason]

The PIC Forum opened on November 26th, 2019. The series premiered January 23rd, 2020.

PIC was announced in spring 2018 and premiered the beginning of 2020. A year-and-a-half. DSC was announced the end of 2015 and premiered in fall 2017. Just under two years. It takes a while for these series to get going.

I'm going to guess that SNW will premiere in the fall of 2021 and the forum will open in the summer of 2021. If the pattern holds. But that doesn't take Covid-19 into account.

So that's a long way of saying it'll probably be a while.

None of that makes sense. You get a name, you get a forum. Easy peasy, done with the click of a mouse.

But this site makes imaginary hoops for some reason, and delays forums for ungodly amounts of time. They weren't sure about Picard's title... they wanted a new moderator (why? just use the ones you already have!)... they wanted to wait until the administrator felt ready. Multiple people asked for a forum and just got the same "just wait for it" responses. Meanwhile, FoT was flooded with speculation and unnecessary threads that would've been better for everyone if it was siphoned off into its own collective spot.

Lower Decks is a confirmed title. Strange New Worlds is a confirmed title. They should have dedicated forums by now. Prodigy is still up in the air. Section 31 is still up in the air. Perhaps they shouldn't have forums (yet), but I will note that it's easy to rename a forum should the need arise. Starfleet Academy or the Ceti Alpha V series were ideas bandied around back in 2018 or before that hasn't received much publicity since. They shouldn't have any forums until and unless a major announcement (like this) is made.

 

[The Lensman]

They'll ignore anything if they think the story they want to tell is worth it. And Kirk and Uhura on the Enterprise under Pike alongside Spock worked brilliantly in 2009. They'd be stupid to let one line stop them from more of that.

EDIT: The line is...

MENDEZ: You ever met Chris Pike?
KIRK: When he was promoted to Fleet Captain.

Have Pike be promoted to Fleet Captain the day Kirk joins the crew, and sorted

Yeah...no. Look, I'm all for having Kirk wander though an episode or two, while he's displaced from the Farragut and dealing with the loss of his captain and crew mates or something like that. But as part of the crew? No. I like the idea that he serves on other ships, gets promoted to captain and takes over the Enterprise. You move up and move out. The problem with Disco was introducing a character with the last name of Tyler, because Jose Tyler was the navigator in The Cage. We don't need Kirk because we have Jose Tyler already there.

Uhura I'm mixed on. On original Trek I always assumed she was much younger than Kirk, though the actors are just one year apart in age. But I don't like the idea that everybody from the Kirk era was already aboard the Enterprise during the Pike era. Scotty, being older, I could buy.....but Uhura, Sulu and McCoy...not really. Although it occurs to me as I type this, that they could be including Uhura to play with the romantic angle from ST2009, an angle I liked....although it wouldn't really line up with the flirting and seeming lack of knowledge she has about Vulcan in early episodes of the original show.

Really, they should just start saying it's a reboot since too much doesn't line up with the original show and it would free them up story wise. I'm pretty forgiving as a fan, but they need to stop pretending as if all of this new stuff is just going to segue into a 60's show, as much as I love that 60's show. I'd be cool with Kirk taking over the ship in seven years and getting the *occasional* remake of certain episodes with a modern sensibility. I'm looking at you Doomsday Machine. Yeah, yeah, I know some of the fanbase would have fits of apoplectic rage, but I really don't care.

 

[Lord Garth]

None of that makes sense. You get a name, you get a forum. Easy peasy, done with the click of a mouse.

I've been here for 21 years. It doesn't matter if it "makes sense" or not, that's the way things are done here.

If you think it should be different, you're talking to the wrong person.

 

[DigificWriter]

All this "speculation" and hand-wringing over some random-**** website claiming that TOS characters are going to be in SNW is both pointless and premature.

 

[Tim Thomason]

I've been here for 21 years. It doesn't matter if it "makes sense", that's the way things are done here.

If you think it should be different, you're talking to the wrong person.

Sorry, wasn't addressing it to anyone in particular. New forums and new shows are a new thing, with Discovery being the first new show in fifteen years. It just seems, to me, that the site administrator's should ease up a little on their unwritten new forum policy when it comes to new series. This is an evolving issue, and it's still early, but I feel a mistake was made with the Picard wait (and the continuous Lower Decks wait) that can be rectified by starting forums now and moving threads today, if possible.

But yeah, long story short, I agree with you. It'll probably be awhile.

 

[DarKush]

About Kirk meeting Pike, I do think there are ways around that if they are really determined to have Kirk on the program, and seeing how things went so well with Spock, Pike, and Number One, I can see them having a very big incentive to do so. I mean, they could just outright ignore canon or canonical conjecture which Trek has done in the past, or they could do something as simple as having Pike become a fleet captain for a short period, and that's when he meets Kirk, loses that rank, and then later on become fleet captain again.

I would prefer not to see Kirk or Uhura on Strange New Worlds. Perhaps Scotty or McCoy, but I would rather they hold off on them as well. They had TOS, TAS, a smidgen of TNG, movies, and the Kelvin universe. I would like to see "The Cage" characters get more screen time instead.

If they wanted a TOS character, why not go for people like Gary Mitchell or Alden? Certainly not as attention grabbing as having Kirk or Uhura, but it would be nice to flesh out some of these characters.

 

[BillJ]

All this "speculation" and hand-wringing over some random-**** website claiming that TOS characters are going to be in SNW is both pointless and premature.

Have you watched the last two shows? Seriously? I'm not a fan of the idea of Kirk being there, but he will be there at some point.

 

[DigificWriter]

^ Cynicism does not justify or equal certainty, so I stand by my earlier comment.

 

[Ronald Held]

I mean, I’m sure the ship will start off as the Discoprise. But as the series goes, it would only make sense for the ship to begin to resemble the Enterprise as it was in TOS. Up until the finale when Pike hands Kirk the keys and it looks like it should.

it’s easier to explain away why it looks like it does in the Disco-verse than to retcon out 50+ years across every subsequent series except Voyager.

I would like to see the WNMHGB 1701 when Kirk takes command. Unlikely given the production crew mindset.
Which have Kirk be in SNW, except in the last episode?

 

[The Lensman]

I would prefer not to see Kirk or Uhura on Strange New Worlds. Perhaps Scotty or McCoy, but I would rather they hold off on them as well. They had TOS, TAS, a smidgen of TNG, movies, and the Kelvin universe. I would like to see "The Cage" characters get more screen time instead.

Definitely agree, especially with that last part. The Menagerie has always been one of my favorite stories because it gave us a glimpse of our familiar ship......with completely different people (aside from a very different Mr. Spock) aboard her. THAT is what made it so compelling to me. Who were these people? What were they like? What adventures did *they* have?

I don't like when writers, who know the outcome, start making things seem pre-ordained and overly engaging in small universe kind of stuff.

An example of the former is how lame the Klingons seemed in the premiere of ENT and how dangerous they seemed in the premiere of DSC. In ENT they're all "They're called Klingots" aaaaand that's about it. in DSC they're like "Oh......shit. Those incredibly brutal, warrior aliens are looking at us.....!!" Which is how it shoud've been in those early days. But B&B had spent too much time in the 24th century and just couldn't write the Klingons and humans as if it wasn't a foregone conclusion, so the humans didn't react to the Klingons any differently than an American might react to someone from Belgium.

If they wanted a TOS character, why not go for people like Gary Mitchell or Alden? Certainly not as attention grabbing as having Kirk or Uhura, but it would be nice to flesh out some of these characters.

Alden would be a nice easter egg to the fans, would add some needed diversity and they'd be able to develop the character much more than he ever got in the past. Mitchell.....Meh. I always figured Kirk brought him along based on Dehner's words.

Have you watched the last two shows? Seriously? I'm not a fan of the idea of Kirk being there, but he will be there at some point.

I'm not a fan of him being a regular, but I'm okay with a two episode guest stint. Or the inevitable Farragut (or whatever ship he was on after) show that eventually ends as Kirk jumps over to Strange New Worlds as captain in about seven years.

 

[BillJ]

^ Cynicism does not justify or equal certainty, so I stand by my earlier comment.

One can look at the recent past to make solid predictions about the immediate future. Especially where the same people are involved.

 

[BillJ]

I'm not a fan of him being a regular, but I'm okay with a two episode guest stint.

If they can write something compelling, that has him skirting Pike then go for it. But these writers don't seem to have a lot of self control where nostalgia is concerned.

 

[Jadeb]

I’m not a fan of the idea of Kirk as a regular because we could end up with another Burnham situation, where a character takes precedence for real-world reasons that don’t make sense in-universe. You know they’d struggle to resist that temptation.

They’ve got great leads as it is — don’t fight the show’s greatest virtue.

 

[Gonzo]

I hope not!



https://www.thedigitalfix.com/television/news/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-confirmed/


I don't know if this site is trustworthy though.

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-spock-pike-episodic-1234608181/
That sounds good! Now they just have to deliver on their words.

It makes a lot of sense.

A Pike/Enterprise show is going to have far more momentum straight out of the gate compared to the S31 show.

It allows them to move forward quickly with SNW while keeping Yeoh onboard via Discovery, it also solves the issue of having to bring her back to her own time from the future for the S31 show, her presence should help Discovery S3 now that they are in the future and Pike/Spock have been left behind.

It doesn't do much for Latif though who plays Tyler, unless they bring him onto the Enterprise for the time being.

 

[BillJ]

What I would like to see in this show

More Tellarites and Andorians since the coalition of planets has long since happened and is now Starfleet
Less Klingon and romulan stuff that has been done to death and more Cardassian, Tzenkethi,and other non federation races of the Alpha Quadrant.

How other races like the Bolians, Trill etc joined the Federation
Maybe the introduction of the earlier doctors like Boyce, or helmsman Sulu and other characters.

I'd like for them to come up with new elements and forge their own path than the continued navel gazing of Discovery and Picard.

 

[The Lensman]

If they can write something compelling, that has him skirting Pike then go for it. But these writers don't seem to have a lot of self control where nostalgia is concerned.

I feel like they're doing that to appease fans. Because we're in an era where fans are constantly fucking whining about shit. They don't know what they want. When TWOK was in production and fans got word that Spock was going to die, they went apeshit. How dare this guy who's never watched an ep, who has no love or respect for the show kill off Mr. Goddamn Spock of all characters!!! And then we got what is still considered the greatest Trek movie of all. The one that keeps getting badly remade since the early 90's.

When you and I were young, if someone asked "Do you like Star Trek?" We knew EXACTLY what they were talking about: The Starship Enterprise commanded by James T. Kirk and his crew of Spock, McCoy, Uhura, Scotty, Sulu, Chekov and sometimes Chapel, visiting strange new worlds and having exciting adventures.

But that's not the case any more. Trek means different things to different people now and the internet and social media has made it super easy to piss and moan endlessly about things with a few button presses. I don't envy anyone making current Trek because they're going to catch shit from someone somewhere no matter what they do. Too different or a reboot? They're not respecting the past! Where's the Prime Universe!?! Put it in the Prime Universe? It's not the Prime Universe I remember and loved from decades ago! Throw in some nods to the past? These guys are cynically milking nostalgia to rope in unhappy fans! Incorporate some action? Trek's supposed to be thoughtful not glorify violence or war! Too thoughtful? This is boring!

Etc, etc, etc. So yeah, they're trying to figure out how to make a large group of diverse people for whom Star Trek means something different happy.

I'm glad I don't have their job.

 

[BillJ]

Etc, etc, etc. So yeah, they're trying to figure out how to make a large group of diverse people for whom Star Trek means something different happy.

I'm glad I don't have their job.

I tend to agree, but that they need to drop the idea that Pike is going to lead into TOS. I'd just prefer they say that it is "Star Trek" and let the chips fall where they may.

 

[Gonzo]

They'll ignore anything if they think the story they want to tell is worth it. And Kirk and Uhura on the Enterprise under Pike alongside Spock worked brilliantly in 2009. They'd be stupid to let one line stop them from more of that.

EDIT: The line is...

MENDEZ: You ever met Chris Pike?
KIRK: When he was promoted to Fleet Captain.

Have Pike be promoted to Fleet Captain the day Kirk joins the crew, and sorted

We could end up getting the USS Farragut with Kirk onboard but he doesn't interact with Pike directly.

The class of that ship was never actually confirmed so who knows what we will get, perhaps it will end up being one of the classes we saw in the Discovery pilot, perhaps another Nimitz or Hoover class.

Be nice to see the USS Farragut (class tbc) alongside the USS Enterprise.

 

[BillJ]

And what does having people like boyce, sulu etc who end up on the enterprise anyway, got to do with picard or discovery ?

It is constantly looking back and slamming us over the head again and again with nostalgia. Allow Strange New Worlds be about strange new worlds.