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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x11 - "The Wolf Inside"

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I hope the show resists the fanservicey urge to hereditarily connect a certain two MU Emperors with similar racial background.

I’m curious how MU Spock is XO on the Enterprise if Vulcans are hated.
 
It just occurred to me that this is starfleet/federation's first encounter with the Mirror universe since there was no crossover in the ENT episodes. I am surprised that nobody has complained about Kirk not being familiar with MU in Mirror Mirror. I guess it was not required reading at the academy during his time, later on we see that Bashir knew about it.
 
I guess it was not required reading at the academy during his time, later on we see that Bashir knew about it.
I suppose that would depend on whether anything was written about the Discovery's foray into the MU that a cadet/average member of Starfleet would have access to.
 
I guess Tyler/Voq will now become brig-buddies with L'Rell. :D And will there ever be a security officer on duty in the brig? Sometimes I think Discovery is operating with just a skeleton crew!
There will be a single red shirt on duty, so when the power inevitably fails and the two escape they have someone to kill to show how evil and bad they are.
 
I love the execution but still fail to understand WHY they decided to bring the crew to the MU this early in the series.

My answer to that is:

1. For a show about identity, the mirror universe can be, and is being in these past two episodes, a brilliant sci-fi tool for exploring that concept.
2. It is a commentary on our contemporary situation. A human government that hates the 'Other'. The feeling that not everything is 'right'. The requirement that you have to be a worse person than you are just to survive. Odds are you've heard someone say "We're in the darkest timeline." in the past year. Then this show goes there. That's important.
 
There will be a single red shirt on duty, so when the power inevitably fails and the two escape they have someone to kill to show how evil and bad they are.
In other words, standard Starfleet security procedures. Required training materials at the Academy specify that there has to be at least one redshirt death at each prison break before any interventions can be made.
 
Not quite as good as last week but still pretty good.
My main issue was why did the medical team leave Stamets propped up in the chamber if they thought he wad dead. Shouldn't he have been taken to the morgue.
There were a few things that seemed a bit stupid to me, but as the cast are so great, and I find it so entertaining I can forgive my nitpicks.
 
I hope the show resists the fanservicey urge to hereditarily connect a certain two MU Emperors with similar racial background.

I’m curious how MU Spock is XO on the Enterprise if Vulcans are hated.
In the Roman Empire many conquered nations were required to serve in the Legions of the Empire.
 
One of the best parts of the episode was how the writers handled the problem of Stamets being locked up by a force field while the Doc was killed outside the force field. Random power outage before anybody walked in to sick bay and saw the dead Doc. Frickin brilliant.

(Don't starships have redundant power systems?)
 
My answer to that is:

1. For a show about identity, the mirror universe can be, and is being in these past two episodes, a brilliant sci-fi tool for exploring that concept.
2. It is a commentary on our contemporary situation. A human government that hates the 'Other'. The feeling that not everything is 'right'. The requirement that you have to be a worse person than you are just to survive. Odds are you've heard someone say "We're in the darkest timeline." in the past year. Then this show goes there. That's important.

Like I said, I LOVE all the fallout of Michael Burnham having to conform to the ways of this universe, and the psychological and metaphysical toll. I think it's the best thing the show has done so far.

I just think maybe they went there too soon.
 
I’m curious how MU Spock is XO on the Enterprise if Vulcans are hated.

The Empire might have thought it useful as a propaganda tool. "See, the Vulcans can be reasonable after all, look at this - the son of one of the most prominent Vulcan rebels has realized the error of his ways".

And Spock may have even provided the Empire with valuable intel regarding what was left of the rebellion - perhaps even enough to enable the Imperial Starfleet to finally squash it once and for all.
 
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For me, trying to fit the continuity together is one of the fun things about being a Trek fan, but I agree people can get too worked up about it. I think that that continuity shouldn't get in the way of telling a compelling story; I was never expecting Discovery to look like an episode of Star Trek Continues.



Good point! I also imagine being in the Agony Booth all that time wouldn't have been good for his eyes and something tells me that the Terrans don't really attend to any pre-existing medical conditions of their prisoners...

It would also explain why Lorca won't get them fixed (although I thought that was just his personality, he wanted a reminder to make him remember and keep him focused on winning the war) as there wouldn't appear to be anything wrong to a doctor.

It's a great point. That's how I view it too. Continuity is fun, and so is trying to make stuff fit. But, it's only fun until it's NOT! And, if your driving yourself crazy as a fan trying to make stuff fit (and hating stuff that you can't make fit) then you're doing it wrong!
 
It's a great point. That's how I view it too. Continuity is fun, and so is trying to make stuff fit. But, it's only fun until it's NOT! And, if your driving yourself crazy as a fan trying to make stuff fit (and hating stuff that you can't make fit) then you're doing it wrong!
My thoughts exactly.
 
Not quite as good as last week but still pretty good.
My main issue was why did the medical team leave Stamets propped up in the chamber if they thought he wad dead. Shouldn't he have been taken to the morgue.
There were a few things that seemed a bit stupid to me, but as the cast are so great, and I find it so entertaining I can forgive my nitpicks.

Do you know that the poll indicates you voted this episode as a "1- Hated every minute of it?"

:mallory:
 
One of the best parts of the episode was how the writers handled the problem of Stamets being locked up by a force field while the Doc was killed outside the force field. Random power outage before anybody walked in to sick bay and saw the dead Doc. Frickin brilliant.

(Don't starships have redundant power systems?)
Only on alternate Tuesdays
 
Has anybody speculated yet that if Lorca IS from the MU, He is responsible for killing the MU Michael Burnham?
(she was dispatched to hunt him down afterall)

It might be very convoluted, but a reason as to why he came to the Prime Universe to being with?
The MU already knows the the Prime Universe exists thanks to "ENTERPRISE".

So he went Universe-Hopping to use the PU Burnham to destroy the MU Emperor Georgiou.

<shrug>
 
The Defiant IS the palace.

It's not a literal palace...
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It's her ship and symbol of authority. Whoever controls Defiant, controls the Empire.
We see the Admiral's flag ship in the Episode 12 preview, it looks like a literal space palace.

except that he's not the Paul Stammets from our universe according to Tilly
She didn't say that.

It just occurred to me that this is starfleet/federation's first encounter with the Mirror universe since there was no crossover in the ENT episodes. I am surprised that nobody has complained about Kirk not being familiar with MU in Mirror Mirror. I guess it was not required reading at the academy during his time, later on we see that Bashir knew about it.
Current theory is the incident is classified with the Spore Drive.
 
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